Backyard Aquaponics
A place to discuss aquaponics

WA is so far away. KP is an Engineer and would love to lend a hand.

Organic is the domain of the certifying bodies.... No wild caught stock can not be classified organic because you don;t know what has gone into them.. To call a food product organic, you must be certified by an organic certification body..

I have wondered. Can I say it is grown organically, or in an organic manner? Without calling it 'Organic' or is the entire word and all it's derivatives trademarked so to speak?

Did you just refer to yourself in the third person?

Looking good BF - I believe they have been doing some saltwater AP research out at the DPI facility at Bribie Island (Qld) for a while now. Might be worth touching base with them. If you need a contact, let me know and I'll see what I can do for you.

i've noticed a trick that some ferteliser manufacturers use. in huge letters they have the word "ORGANIC", then in tiny little letters they have the word "based".

i fell for it the first few times but not again. i think its unethical to use the word organic is such a fashion. it's clearly misleading.

My reason for thinking it is: Apparently rabbit farmers cannot get organic cert. no matter what they do, because it is law to keep them in cages, and organic cert has a law that says caged animals (eg battery hens) cannot be certified organic. So yes what you state is misleading, but if I do everything by the book, but don't get the cert, can I say it is grown organically? Or am I in violation of the regulations?

KP misses the /me switch from IRC

oh really.

that may well come in handy in the future. for now we will be focusing on freshwater barra and silvers and go from there. if this goes well there is no reason why saltwater wont naturally progress. would be worth contacting them when things take off.

thanks for the details.

THat sounds great BF. It's taking two exiasting technologies, 1 AP, 2 marine aquariums, and combining them. I live in Hamilton Hill and would love to help too. Pleeze

Thats great. You are taking two existing technologies. 1 AP, 2 Marine aquariums, and combining them. Very cool. Can i help too pleeze

You just did it again.... Hehe.... Just teasin' KP...

personally i'm a bit skeptical about some companies. when they say organic based i get the impression chemicals are added to them. i may be wrong but its hard to tell. i once went to a hydroponic store looking for organic nutrients and was given a product which came across as organic i asked for 100% organic and was told this product was. the labels came across as this was the case. i did a little research on the product and found it was a chemical nutrient with some organic additives. this made me a bit wary. i believe its the same with many products off the shelf in a supermarket. some companies do their best to hide whats in the product for obvious reason.

if organically based actually means its grown very near organically but just isn't certified then thats different. sounds like you know more about it then i do though.

One of the dudes at the AP lecture organised by Geoff Wilson last year suggested that maybe we need to forget about getting organic certification and declare out food as being 'Aquaponically Grown'. Not a bad thought.

Nice Idea. Yes I was more wondering about the legalities rather than ethical or moral quandaries. 'Aquaponically Grown' sounds nice.
My AP stuff will be 100% organic, but can I say that without certification?
(I'm planning on flogging excess at the local farmer's market)