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i belive they run off batteries KP


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Scottt, I still think even is you have a controller the best "turn on backup air pump if mains fails" technique is a single relay (240VAC coil relay with normally closed contact. When power is on the contact is held open, when power goes off contact closes running battery powered air pump or whatever)

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Yep, you are right. But I have this picaxe thing to play with !

The 12V pump will be connected to the normally closed contact of a relay.
The relay will be held open be the microcontoller, so if anything fails the pump will come on.
Advantage is, I can turn on the airpump via software at any time I like during my pump cycle.

Early days yet, I' ll post some details when it works.
(I checked out your pixaxe code, much more elegant than mine!)


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i belive they run off batteries KP


Well that sux, at least we know they're low voltage DC... but that would have to be fixed onto mains.


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i belive they run off batteries KP


Well that sux, at least we know they're low voltage DC... but that would have to be fixed onto mains.


doesnt suck really.....is called a power supply


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yeah just needs some modifcation


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bundaberg kid wrote:
KudaPucat wrote:
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i belive they run off batteries KP


Well that sux, at least we know they're low voltage DC... but that would have to be fixed onto mains.


doesnt suck really.....is called a power supply


Yeah sorry that's what I meant by 'fixed onto mains' excuse my flippancy. Power supplies we covered in basic robotics ;-) anyhow, the interface without pulling the motor apart will suck, because batter terminals, especiall c or d cell battery terminals are mongrels to affix to nicely... would have to remove all the housing and then waterproof the lot... unless you could find somewhere under cover to operate it, even so, it's looking very science fairish atm...


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This stuff is way out of my league, but look forward to you all getting it down pat so I can benefit from your work - gotta love the community spirit :lol:


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im sure if the battery "compartment" has a decent IP rating it wont be hard....maybe look outside the robot square and into the industrial world.....it dont take much to up the IP rating of anything electrical...as for the terminals being a bugger to connect to ...i canny see why u cant take the wires off them and THEN connect them to you power supply


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it dont take much to up the IP rating of anything electrical


roof and gutter silicone ;)


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it dont take much to up the IP rating of anything electrical


roof and gutter silicone ;)

Now you are talking


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it dont take much to up the IP rating of anything electrical


roof and gutter silicone ;)


Actually the best stuff I've ever seen for increasing the IP is a product that used to be called 'redskin' out of business now, but you can find simmilar products around. It's a waterproof insulating plastic coating. you can paint it on or dip it, and your gear ends up like plier handles.

Silicone is however great for filling up the gaps for a permanently submersed device, especially if pressure is an issue. Air pockets and pressure are pure evil.


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If this is really the approach you want to take, why not move the batteries out of the wet area and run a wire from them to wherever you need the power. You could hang the batteries in a zip lock bag off your roof....


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If this is really the approach you want to take, why not move the batteries out of the wet area and run a wire from them to wherever you need the power. You could hang the batteries in a zip lock bag off your roof....


imho, they go flat. This is the only reason I'd want to build a PSU


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Why don't you just use toilet cisterns hung on the ends of the gb's?
Sort of flood and flush.


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Sleepe wrote:
Why don't you just use toilet cisterns hung on the ends of the gb's?
Sort of flood and flush.


I don't quite know what you mean Sleepe...


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