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The idea of "clean coal" is bullshit. The idea of sequestering co2 is bullshit.

Didn't quote the whole passage, but I agree with it all. I am doing what I can to provide for my family when things get hard and the shops can't provide the food cheap enough for the people to buy.
I still think that I am too close to town.


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Check this out re: Peak Oil


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I have 2 problems with peak oil theory as it is stands today.

1. groups asserting it always try to play down the oil industries estimations on remaining reserves, which makes no sense since oil companys would directly profit from an expectation of low reserves (high price per barrel due to supply and demand)

2. the same groups were claiming back in the 80's we'd be out of oil by 2010, which is obviously wrong.

It's pretty unlikely there will be some sudden drop off in oil production, it'll be more likely a gradual affordability issue. Right now oil companys are going back to old wells and pumping them again since they were abandond when the "easy" oil was taken decades ago.
While oil as a fuel source is limited, and it's highly likely we will see petrol stop being the dominate fuel source in our life time, we won't see the barrel run dry so the speak.


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actually isn't there a reason to OVER STATE reserves by the OPEC? it escapes me for the moment
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Ah that was it..............

"OPEC countries have every incentive to exaggerate their reserves because their share of the OPEC quota is proportional to stated reserves."



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You might be actually surprised how quickly production from a field decolines Timmy....

The local Motonui refinery processing gas from the Maui and Kapuni fields offshore from my home town in NZ....

Went from 100% refining capacity to decommisioning in less than three years....


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thanks jamie. i enjoyed the refreshing wit in the last article........

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If there were reporters from the mainstream media present at this event, I didn't run into of them. They are apparently uninterested in the fate of industrial economies, at least as long as Senator Larry Craig is out there on the frontiers of toilet coaching science, and Britney Spears is still sparring with K-Fed, and Diddy is beating people up in nightclubs, and people are murdering their friends for dissing their dogs.


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...and people are pissing in other peoples AP systems....


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Market dynamics are a wonderful thing. Yes, oil, although renewable, takes a couple million years to fill back up. So in human timescales there is a finite amount in the ground. Production tends to follow a Gaussian type curve, all true.

Then there's that old supply and demand curve. Currently demand for oil exceeds supply (whatever the reason). And we've seen light sweet crude oil prices go from $30/barrel 5 or 6 years ago to $85/barrel today. As a result, a flurry of new activity is taking place. Old wells are being tapped into, people are looking more and more at getting oil from shale, and, most importantly, people are looking at alternatives to oil much more seriously.

Stock of solar panel companies have been rising steadily for the past 6 months. Talk of wind, solar, and nuclear power are commonplace.

Yes, someday we will run out of oil for all practical purposes, but we're a pretty resourceful bunch. The main downside I see is that the middle east will devolve into a flaming cesspool (moreso than now) because they will no longer have an exportable commodity.


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Tamo, as long as the west can develop alternative technology yo produce the rediculous energy demands of your society for a comparable price within the period (not after) of decline..................otherwise the ME is not the only ones that will devolve into the cesspool


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Steve,
Yeh - that article was really good - great wit :)
As far as oil prices go - if its not $120 a barrel by this time next year I'll eat my fish :)
I think this time last year it was averaging $60, now $80.
I think we'll see some acceleration if Peak really was 2006.

Well, hopefully I'll have a big harvest of fish at christmas.
Got any ideas how I can preserve it?
I'll try smoking. Got to get some plans for a smoker.
What about laying down in buckets of salt?
How do they make Kippers?
What about dried fish (used as a nutritional additive to soups'n' stews..)


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Jamie said"I'll try smoking. Got to get some plans for a smoker. "

Jamie, BBQ's Galore sell smoking boxes that go in your BBQ if'n you have a hood. Otherwise it's hard to find rollie paper big enough :lol:


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that has been split from tail to head, gutted, salted, and cold smoked.

Typically, the species is a herring, mackerel or salmon, but traditionally it is any fish found in great numbers and caught during its spawning period. Spawning fish are not good to eat fresh and usually arrive in great abundance, thus they are salted and smoked to improve flavor and preservation.

A red herring is a whole unsplit fish. Red herring can be served cold, sliced thinly across the body with new bread and butter or a salad as a starter. In the UK and the eastern seaboard of North America they are often eaten grilled for breakfast. In the UK kippers, along with other preserved fish such as the bloater, were also once commonly enjoyed as a high tea or supper treat; most popularly with inland and urban working-class populations before World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kipper

cant stand the smell of em myself have never actualy eaten them but then i dont like most smoked fish
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