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PostPosted: Jun 12th, '07, 04:03 
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i dont know what % of anything i am. gonna have to start my own tribe. will i still have to pay taxes?


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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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3/8, 3/16, 1/64 :?:
...can you put that in metric please :lol:


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small bit, smaller bit, smallest bit .... there ya go Les :lol:


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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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I was thinking along those lines too


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For me 3/16ths equals; 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/16th Crow. My father was 1/4 Cherokee from his father and 1/8 Crow from his mother. Which meant my grandfather was 1/2 Cherokee and my grandmother 1/4 Crow. So, as you can see from my lineage I have to go back three generations from myself to find a full blooded Cherokee on my father's father's side and five generations on my father's mother's side to find a full blooded Crow.

The last time I knew most of the native American tribes require at least 1/8th blood relationship to be eligible for enrollment into the tribal rolls. Documentation becomes critical, as you have to be able to prove that an ancestor was a member of the tribe during a specific governmental census. In my case it might be difficult to prove, due to my ancestors being drop outs from the "trail of tears" migration to Oklahoma. (They were forced out of the eastern U.S., Tennessee and Georgia, by the U.S. government. Some of my ancestors dropped out of the migration when they got to the Missouri ozarks. The area was hilly and sparsely populated, so they just dropped out and blended into the society already present. The Cherokee and the Crow were a part of the five "civilized" tribes, and had already "adapted" to many of the European customs, culture, and religions.)

Because of this relationship to native peoples, that is why I have an interest in self-sufficiency, and in nature. Afterall, if your ancestors had to rely solely upon themselves to get by, then shouldn't we also be able to do the same thing?


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Janet, sometimes things get lost in translation between American English and Australian English.

Jtjf, you mentioned the idea of using a methane digester on your place. Are you wanting to use the "pooh" gas to run a generator or is it for cooking and some heating(hot water, etc.)? You also mentioned the possiblility of having coconut oil as another possible resource from your acreage. Are you planning on using it for cooking or as a source for bio-diesel? The negative side of most "tropical" oils is that the human body breaks it down and converts it into saturated fats. It might be better to look into raising soybeans and crushing them for oil and to make tofu out of. Another use of the soybean is as animal food, after it has been processed (steamed or ground).


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Ok so I am in Singapore doing a visa run so late on replies. My wife is saying why we are on vacation but hey you just got to read the forum.

Ok so pork no worries about 400,000 "Christians" live in the area so it is pretty common.

Methane will be for cooking and maybe hot water. As for the coconut all is good in that world. I have worked with another NGO making VCO (Virgin Coconut Oil) we have run it through all the test some of them even done here in singapore on my last visa run. It does not form into saturated fats as the soyabean industry says. (theres a big fight going on about it right now). The VCO is very healty for you and has been proved to solve a lot of medical consitions. When I get home i will post some of the info i have on it but right now i have none on hand. But don't fret about coconut oil most of the info about it is lies made up after world war 2 to protect the soya bean industy in America. They had started making oil because asian imports were cut off and then when the war was done the imports came back and they were way cheaper. Hence the misinformation.


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Well, all I was going off of was what the U.S. Food and Drug Administration had been saying about it, along with the U.S. Heart Institute. They contend it elevates cholestrol, just like animal fats. But, as you point out a lot of research and politics are backed by special interest groups. (By the way, soybeans were not a popular field crop in the U.S. until the bush varieties were developed after W.W. II. Prior to that they were ground cover crops that were difficult to harvest.)
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I see AP as an important part of self sufficiency, that's one of the main reasons I'm getting into it. I see it as reducing your reliance on the system and using the positives, whilst avoiding the negatives. Even if you live within a city in a small apartment, you can still achieve it to a certain degree. If you live inside suburbia or outside, your chances go up.

Currently, I make my own fuel, grow most of our food, have solar and wind power as well back up power fuelled by grown seed and used cooking oil, which reduce emitted green house gases by more than 80%. We have cut or reduced the unnecessary economic ties and restraints of the system. Got rid of our land line, we use subsidised satellite internet and VOIP, have low power (24-12v) LED lighting, monitor power use, solar water and house heating. This may sound expensive, but it's not, you can make a brilliant solar hot water heater for less than $500. It's just the opposite, as you do these things over time. With uncertain times ahead for our world in many ways, if the power goes of and I lived in a city, I'd sure want to be able to sustain myself as long as possible. Remember for cities, no power, no life, as they are completely unsustainable.


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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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stormbay- you have done well!!!


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Hey Here is a quick link on Coconut Oil A New Look At Coconut Oil


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Well, Jtjf, I will just have to eat my words! :oops: It looks like some of the research was flawed or the data was not properly evaluated.

I had heard about the Lauric Acid deficiency in American diets, but was not aware that it could be re-introduced by the use of coconut based foods into the diet. For sometime we have been aware of the lower incidence of heart disease in the Asian, and some European people, but the assumption has been that it was due to the large amounts of Omega 3 fatty acids from fish, and from other acids such as lycopene from tomatoes. Hopefully, more research will result in a greater understanding of diet upon health and will resolve the mountain of misinformation that has been disseminated in the last several decades.

In the meantime, I think we can all improve our health and lives by consuming more fresh fruits, vegetables, eggs, milk and meat that we can produce, and decreasing our dependence upon commercially prepared foods and food products. Now, what does the research say about Vegamite? Personally I've always thought it was icky! :P

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A teaspoon of vegemite in a cup of hot water is better than a cup of tea or coffee for me!


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