Backyard Aquaponics
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Hi all.

I'm doing up a video on realistic commercial aquaponics, basically dispelling a few myths about the magic of AP. And go through a stack of the questions we get on here, try to stop people from throwing money at people with silly claims.

I was hoping you guys might know of a few links or places were people are charging outrageous amount of money so they can make millions in commercial AP?


Something like this:
http://www.prepperfortress.com/become-m ... quaponics/
or this:
http://aquaponics.ashop.me/p/9055807/aq ... -2016.html

Where they want to charge a stack of money for plans.

Thanks!

I think you are leaving your self open to a stack of law suits
I can already se the lawyers hovering

good point F&F, if you want to contribute maybe PM Colum instead - he can soon post people to stop...
One that was ironically appearing in the random Ad space here (when browsing as guest) last week in the space usually reserved for all the single lady's that live just down the road probably thinks themselves legit....

Pesky lawyers, they take the fun out of everything.

I wasn't going to name and shame though, I wouldn't feel comfortable with that unless I had access to the $1000 set of plans that prepper fortress was trying to sell (would be nice to be a millionaire off 1 acre though, were all silly if they are capable of doing that). But unless I see what they are offering, I can't tell if there is a magic formula in there that actually works.

I kind of wanted to do a little slide show of the outrageous offers, and talk about not trusting a group of they aren't actually running a working farm, and aren't surviving off doing courses/tours/workshops, or have actual farms that they set up which have been running and working.

Then talk about scale, how much you actually need to grow to get something out of it, with backups, monitoring, generators, etc.

What's "dodgy" about Murray's 4 day course?

the first thing one could point out is: "dont pay $1290.00!! only pay $1290.00!!"

then there is the fact that colum never said dodgy.

The price is my first thing. I've also heard a few first hand reports of his courses, and people weren't impressed at all, neither in the style the information was given, or in the information given either. They said they felt very ripped off after it.

It wasn't the four day course though, I haven't heard anything about that one, and will accept that I'm wrong if I speak to somebody who's gone to it.

EDIT...

Yav, I did imply it in the title.

The heading anybody have links to dodgy sellers
then further down like this
then he links to two
In my book he is saying they are dodgy

Portable farms and their aquaponics university... I'm not going to link to it....

The "dodgy websites" thread has lots of them.

I'd forgotten about the questionable websites thread. Thanks for the tip Joel.

I'll have to have a look more into portable farms.

I can understand the value of a vid outlining commercial lies and misconceptions, especially if you do get a good AP fan base following your videos, but Im not sure how much further you could take it after that. I don't know what you have planned but I wouldn't go explaining to people what is required or 'how to' build a commercial system without that experience.

I was never going to try and teach people how to make a commercial system, no where near the experience needed. I wouldn't try and bluff it either.

The video is more to explain why it's not a magic ticket to make money. How economies of scales kick in, and unless you have enough capital to make a massive system, then you won't be able to compete with the big boys. Basically what gets said to every person that pops up on here about to start their own money making commercial system in their backyard.

This is still, at best, second hand information, Colum. Not to mention, no one held guns to their heads, forcing them to pay the guy. But, if they truly felt ripped off after the fact, they should have addressed that through local channels - like a Better Business Bureau, or other sources. After all, almost $1,300 bucks is nothing to sneeze at.

In my opinion here - a fool and his money...

I only know Murray, his website, and what he offers, through my research on the internet. To me, it just appears as though he is a business guy trying to earn a living. He has an eBook and some videos that I am aware of, which he sells through his site. I was not aware of any course he may offer.

I remember, not long ago, someone offering to give away Murray's very own eBook on HIS forum, to a newbie who was asking about resources for his research. Personally, I would have banned the guy at that point, had I been him. He didn't. He simply called the guy on it, asking him not do so such things. Kudos to Murray for that. He's a better man than I am, for sure.

On the other hand, that DIY site, I have seen a lot of. That one DOES have the feel of an online scam site. That's one of those sites you just get that "we're gonna screw you" feeling, right after you load it.

Either way, we all have the choice to make, when deciding if we wish to pay what a business asks, or not, when deciding to deal with them.

Personally, I am just a new born babe, regarding aquaponics. But, I wouldn't pay even $100 USD, for a company to teach me any course in aquaponics. Why? Because, there are many others out there who share their information for free. As I learn, I will happily do the same as I learn, especially on a local level.

I can count several Youtube folk whose videos I have viewed, that have directed me to where I am now. This included yours, until you recently chose to take your channel in another direction, no longer focusing just on AP.

For me, aquaponics is one of those things like solar, like rainwater harvesting, which can truly make differences in people's lives. I'm not talking about someone adding a grid-tied array to their home in Los Angeles. I'm talking about here in SE Asia, where I have resided for a very long time. Here, a single 100 watts array, a small rainwater catchment system, and likewise, a small aquaponics system can make a big difference in the lives of poor farmers, poor citizens of these countries.

Don't get me wrong here. I am all for anyone who has a website, to earn monies in order to support themselves making a living, online. I have been running websites for ages. I too need monies to support sites, so they can remain online. We just have to use our own moral compasses. It is up to each of us, as to whether we are going to offer our products and services at rates that are reasonable - or, to screw people over.

Oh, I have had people, including lawyers, threaten me over the years, regarding posts and threads that were made not showing them in such a positive light. I told them, just as I would anyone today. If you want the content I have posted to be removed, then I suggest you contact my host and let them know. If they wish for me to remove it, I will. Until then, it stays. I have never, not once in all these years, ever been forced to remove content from my forums.

However, if they were to come to me with a respectful request, I would be very willing to remove said content.

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