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im not a huge fan of fishing, but fishing for food, like hunting for food is another story.

its not the activity that is bad, it is the methods used to carry out such activities.

e.g. hunting with firearms is no more ethical than trawler fishing.


Im not too concerned about what PETA think, they are on the right track, but they dont go anywhere near far enough TBH.

BTW, hunting for fun (including fishing) is NOT biologically correct behaviour, only hunting for food is.

AQ is farming, there is nothing ethical about it in general, however there is a level of control over health issues and pain during death, etc. which you do not get with hunting, which i would compare to kosher/ halal meat. (unneccessarily cruel)


Anyways, back on topic.


just ban guns for anyone who doesnt live in the country and need to control rabbits, foxes, cain toads, etc.
Actually, scrap the last sentence..... allow everyone to have air rifles and other guns which are non lethal to anyone wearing clothes, but which are still able to kill rabbits, foxes, etc.

Everything that any of us hold dear, someone else finds reprehensible.
People growing fish for food deliberately released tilapia into south east queensland waterways.
There are now millions and millions of them here.
We're lucky that the legislation regarding rearing fish as a hobby is considered enough to allow us to do what we like and we aren't all tarred with the same brush as the offenders.
After all, none of us need to do it, just as nobody apparently needs a firearm.

These are circular arguments and as pointless as square dancing...

Bodgy

Yav comes from a generation that thinks meat just jumps into a glad wrapped package and appears on supermarket shelves like magic.
Farmed animals obviously have a genetic code to just fall to bits into various cuts when there time has come.

No real hard times for the modern generation (apart from my mobile phone has stopped working and I can't decide which next one I should buy.

I am sure you can meet some really nice girls square dancing EB (at least you get to meet a few)

The Monash incident killed two, I guessing double homicides don't count as 'comparable massacres'. There are plenty of objective articles saying Aus hasn't had a massacre since the legislation.


I haven't noticed a disturbing trend of loving grandfathers killing their families after being prescribed medicines that promote homicidal 'ideation'. I find it difficult to believe that such medicine exists.

The gun lobby promotes the idea that the world is full of drugged out, mental ill nutters roaming everywhere and the only thing keeping good god fearing rural folks safe is their guns, which Obama is dying to take away so he can turn the country into a muslim, socialist state.

lol i think you did a bit too much acid when you were younger, old timer.

i know how meat works, but for a lot of people hunting and having a gun is about fun, its those people that shouldnt have them.

Seriously Yav, check that link to a simple google search. I'd never researched it at all previously, turns out the question is definitely being asked by others. Yes some sites are by whackjobs but not all of them.
Googling the term you hadn't heard of is always recommended.

Here's a link to a case similar to the one I referred to (as an example, not a trend. Don't twist my words.).
Not the one I was thinking of but they won a court case against the pharmaceutical company which was found liable for the tragedy.
Seem legit?

http://ssristories.org/jury-finds-paxil ... r-suicide/

^ That is a worry, I'm no more a fan of big pharma than I am of big guns.

Bodgy, i knew you were talking about SSRIs long before you posted those links.

And here we go again America. The shooting in Oregon makes the 294th massacre in the states this year. Disgusting.

The vast majority of these 'mass shootings' are related to 'organised' crime.
That figure is being thrown around by the media for shock value, they don't clarify what they mean. Deliberately implying that there are near daily massacres of innocents in schools and such.
Not saying that it isn't horrific either way, it certainly is.
But it's also shoddy reporting in our age of copy/paste journalism.

Here we go again - maybe we can get another 14 pages in a few days!

Have been waiting for this since I heard the terrible news this morning and breathed a sigh of relief I live in Australia - although things weren't so good outside Parramatta Police Station today.

Just waiting for someone to dust off the one that the goodies should all have had guns.

Nobody's going to win this argument... I'm going outside to check my pH!