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You referring to me..

I did not do the research, others did.. perhaps the research does not agree with some peoples claim and that rubs the wrong way..

Ironically, there is a great link between the GMO subject and AP.. IMO
IT'S THE REASON that many are into it.. producing foods that we know.exactly what was used on them..
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you want some reading rather than hearsay.
heres some just on glyphosate coachchris


http://gmo-awareness.com/resources/glyphosate/

Glyphosate causes birth defects, tumors, and reproductive disorders in animals, as well as sharp declines in beneficial insects

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And years ago I saw one of those conspiracy theories, like the Kennedy Asassination, where it was claimed that the POWERS-TO-BE, came to recognise that the world was doomed to self destruction from overpopulation and food shortages and increasing longevity, and that THEY needed to find a way of mass control by delivering fatal diseases, without people knowing it..
Ummmm. Kinds sounds just like wot u said Mudeye.. and it is being literally forced on the third world in the pretext of increasing food production, BUT, all the facts seems to suggest that there is no real increase .. so why persevere...

DUMB and STUPID conspiracies..

And completely from left field.. on conspiracies.. there was one years ago, that the polio vaccines were causing cancer, and governments rejected the claim as ludicrous, and yet the CDC did present a paper acknowledging that SV40 was found in the first innoculations, but now now... So in trying to convince the world that the Polio Vaccine was OK, they admitted that SimianVirus40 DID go with the first stuff, and in humans, that virus pre-disposed you to cancer,

Btw... the CDC. report was only on site for a short period.. they were "ASKED" TO REMOVE it and they did so with a.disclaimer suggesting. "The requested report has been withdrawn as the data could not be Confirmed"
the thing with the internet is that you can NEVER erase anything once it appears ...
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Peter, the word was 'all'. If this had to be done a simple survey would have been sufficient.

We had a rather interesting discussion on daylight saving a while back; at least I got to vote on that one (then the arseholes reneged and we got it for a trial). Then we got to vote again.

The point I am trying to make is unless you are prepared to make a stand and commit to it to make a change you are just *sigh* (and so is everyone else).

not that it really matters but so hard to work out who's for GMO and who's not..

Everyone has the right to decide for themselves, it just seems so obvious that the governing bodies who determine what's safe and what's not seem to get it so wrong in the long run.... asbestos, fibreglass, mdf timber, treated pine, medications, mobile phones, it just goes on forever, and by the time people find the problem its way to late and the manufacturers have made their money.

The GMO and pesticide manufacturers seem to be all riding in the Tour de France'. just keeping one or two steps in front of being caught out... eye on the prize is all that matters to them.

Not really, one could say the same about all the breast cancer awarenss campaigns or womens rights campaigns, Informing people is needed first, once enough people have enough knowledge, then something can be done, before that how do you think things would go? (protestors would be stepped on like a bug is how it would go)

Everyone has the right to decide for themselves....

yep, that's pretty much what it should boil down too... But when the GMO's contaminate and cross their genes into other plants, people don't have a choice... When producers of GMO's can guarantee that there will be no cross contamination perhaps then they can get it out there to trial better..

Me thinks they are trying for the "shutting the gate after the horse has bolted" idea.. Oh well, all crops are contaminated now, whats the point in holding back... Point in case the papaya industry linked to a few pages back where 50% of organically grown, natural grown and backyard grown papaya on the big island now contain genes from the GMO papaya, and that's in less than 20 years..

Why aren't the people who released it locked up in a little box? How dare they be allowed to not only get away with this pollution and contamination but also profit from it? And this example is then used as a poster child for the GMO industry?

So we have done the 'awareness' campaign and we have a yes no don't know perhaps etc. (not that anyone has resolved exactly what we are protesting about). So I will get my protest placard (with a question mark on it) and so will everyone else and march on ?.
You should be a pollie Yav; I am motivated.

GMO's kill baby seals....!

That is not all that difficult, but it requires the effort..

The issue really stems from the USA, and the issue of labeling, is going on right now..
"THEY"... don't want labeling.. "WE" do seem to want it..

I can't wait for a Joint Action from some other part of the world, against the US Govt. for their failure to consider Due Dilligence.. over GM Corn etc. etc.

We have the capacity to write to THEIR polies.. I have done it, and I suspect that it would be looked at via.. ".. and heck, I am now getting emails from Australia.."

I think it IS important to realise that we can do something, and doing nothing, allows the Polies to think there is no public Ïnterest" in the subject.."
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It would be my luck to be confronted by an Inuit; and having to explain why they cannot hunt seals and why this has to do with GM and explaining slaughterhouses and battery hens etc.
Sorry EB; don't think I could run that one.

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How about 'GMO's MAKE YOU STERILE', I could just fluff that one (well for a while).