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PostPosted: Oct 19th, '14, 07:44 

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Never lost a Tilapia in my fish tanks until now. The day before yesterday I added some Liquid Iron because my strawberries showed some yellow. First time I have done that. Shortly after I sensed that something is wrong with the fish. Today a bigger amount of them died. Did salt bath and changed major amounts of water. Any advice? Possible that the Liquid Iron (which I now realize contains some Bronon and Copper) caused the havoc? :cry:


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PostPosted: Oct 19th, '14, 10:38 
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I think copper is a no-no for fish.

Did your ph swing? Was it liquid iron or chelated iron? How much did you add? I found liquid iron made my ph drop quite radically, but it left (still don't know how) the water within 24 hours so I never got a "kill" from it.


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What sort of liquid iron did you add?

I think you need Chelated Iron DTPA or EDDHA


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Small amounts of Boron and Copper are ok, they are trace minerals.

A few things need to be known..

1. What type and brand of liquid iron
2. Total system water volume
3. How much did you add.


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3rd day after the incident
Still some dead fish, but remaining fish seem to do better and recovering and feeding.
I used Bonide 'Liquid Iron + Micronutrients' from Amazon. Contains Boron (0.02%), Copper(0.25%), Zinc (0.5%). I used roughly 1 cup (250-300ml) per 800 litre tank.
Checked the water in both tanks today:
Nitrite is zero in both tank
Ammonium is 0.25 in both tanks
PH is 6.4 and 6.0
Nitrate is 5 and 20 (which is lower than last testing before incident)

Still pretty upset about the incident. :(


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1 cup is a lot of liquid iron for 800L of water. Like anything with AP, only small additions to the system should be done over a period of time.


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Yup. that's the same item I bought. (hope you didn't pay $107 for it!)

That doesn't work as well as chelated iron. It seems to get filtered out or used up very quickly. Or maybe it just settles? :dontknow: Chelated iron is different and stays suspended in the water longer.

I have no clue if this necessarily killed your fish. I didn't have any fish deaths (I had goldfish) after I treated with that stuff, but it did lower my ph for a day and then it bounced back up. That kind of ph swing can kill fish.

So it doesn't go to waste, this might work better as a folliar spray, and any small overspray into the FT shouldn't be too big a problem.


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Using Nate Stories rate of 2mg per Litre of system water every 3 weeks, I figured you would need to add 32ml (=32grams) of the concentrate to the 800L system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qczagOJG5mI

might be a case of to much of a good thing?


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Interested 'cause my strawberries are yellowing in one system..
1 cup would have been near 10 times the recommended dosage..
"Trace" would not be a word to use for that.. :-)
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