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 Post subject: Re: Plants for Aeration
PostPosted: Sep 29th, '14, 20:08 
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dlf_perth wrote:
Thread should probably be renamed - reducing noise from AP systems ;-)


Did you build the system like described in your thread "Staggered grow bed/Help a newcomer out?" ?
(it was only a small system, - and you say that above - but had a lot of permanent plunging water)

If so maybe would be much easier to move back to a more 'conventional' tank and bed system.
bring your grow beds over the pond and then surround back to provide some muffling.

then (as per previous post above):

(a) submerged pump on timer with 15-15 or 30-30 cycle, which you can reduce in the early hours.

(b) use a low volume pump

(c) have inflow controlled by a PVC drip pipe at bed surface level (so minimal noise).

(d) use flood and drain system with a simpler well & leaky sump rather than an auto-siphon.

(e) minimise air within pipe systems, so keep them flowing full when at peak (less gurgling).
can use diameter reducers to do this.

(f) have discharge pipe below water level with the stop-cock/valve providing an aeration option.

(g) maybe install a small screen fence between system and the problem people.

that is about as quiet as you would get it.


This is a video of my system

Though the water flow is a little heavier now, I cleaned the pipe out (true genius, aren't I?). Unfortunately I don't really have the funding to move or change my system a huge amount, which is why I figure a timer and some plants for oxygen would be a sort of cheapish mostly self sufficient answer to my woes.


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 Post subject: Re: Plants for Aeration
PostPosted: Sep 29th, '14, 20:25 
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ok now i'm with it.

try putting some plastic or such from the openings on the sides of the GB down to the water level, the water will tend to merge without splashing and being so noisy.

You may find you get an algae problem with the clear tubs, some black plastic or more aesthetic cladding to stop the sunlight will stop this.

Anyhow if you don't to many fish it will be ok to be switched off for a few hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Plants for Aeration
PostPosted: Sep 29th, '14, 20:29 
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Aquatic plants won't add oxygen to your pond after dark.
When your pump is off at night the plants would actually be using up oxygen they take from the water.
It might sound strange but they'd make it worse.
Plants produce oxygen as a by-product of photosynthesis during daylight, they respire and produce carbon dioxide 24 hours/7 days a week.

Slowboat's suggestion would work well and shadecloth would be my choice of material. It'd aerate the water nicely and quieten it down a lot I think.


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PostPosted: Sep 29th, '14, 20:31 
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Slowboat wrote:
ok now i'm with it.

try putting some plastic or such from the openings on the sides of the GB down to the water level, the water will tend to merge without splashing and being so noisy.

You may find you get an algae problem with the clear tubs, some black plastic or more aesthetic cladding to stop the sunlight will stop this.

Anyhow if you don't to many fish it will be ok to be switched off for a few hours.


Oh yea it actually does have a shade clothe on it now, set that up yesterday. Just a couple stakes and an offcut of 50% did the trick.

I'll try the 'slip n slide mini' and watch my system carefully for a couple weeks, the update!

Thanks for your input everyone!


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PostPosted: Sep 29th, '14, 21:27 
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Didn't read whole thread - but I used some agi pipe on a slight angle zip ties to bottom of stand pipe and down into sump/fish tank - spreader pipe for growbeds - Venturi for fish tank


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Well, there is on teensy bit in the OP about using plants..."and are there any plants I can add to a small ish pond that will add water and make sure my fish don't drown during this 4 hour period?"

Simple answer... sortof.

More complex answer... Maybe. Plants don't give off oxygen at night. Photosynthesis stops without light and only respiration continues, which gives off CO2. No need to fret though as they produce much more O2 during the day than they use at night so it is beneficial to have plants in the pond (IF you keep the pond clean of dead plant material).


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PostPosted: Sep 30th, '14, 19:16 
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Hi Jessssuhh,

I just saw your comment about 'not remembering setting the gender when you made your account'....

i just joined & when i logged in i noticed i had a 'blue male gender' thingy too....LOL

I don't recall seeing anywhere it said choose gender when i signed up,but then again i was just so excited i may have missed it! lol

Glad to see another gal here. :)


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