⚠️ This forum has been restored as a read-only archive so the knowledge shared by the community over many years remains available. New registrations and posting are disabled.

All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 08:56 
Legend Member
Legend Member
User avatar

Joined: Dec 20th, '07, 04:29
Posts: 711
Images: 23
Gender: Female
Are you human?: Take me 2 ur leader
Location: Minnesota, US
I recently purchased a dissolved oxygen test kit (drops, like the Master Test Kit) to give me a rough idea of the dissolved oxygen in my system. I know a probe would probably be much more accurate, but this is just to get a basic idea if I'm oxygenating enough. ($20 vs. $220)

How do you read the damn results?

This is the kit I bought:
Image

Once the drops are all in, the directions say:
Test Kit wrote:
Place the test vial on a white part of the color scheme and compare the colors by looking from above.


So, does that mean:
Read it from the top, with the vial off to the side to compare the colors, like you do for the master test kit:
Image

Or, does it mean put the vial on top of the color, look down through the liquid, and see which square disappears?
Image
Image

By the first method, I'm in the high range of DO.
By the second method, I'm in trouble.

My guess is the first method, compare the colors. I had a friend run the test with no input from me, and her guess was look down through the liquid and see which square disappears. :banghead:

Thoughts?


Top
 Profile Personal album  
Reply with quote  
    Advertisement
 
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 09:07 
A posting God
A posting God
User avatar

Joined: Dec 12th, '13, 18:34
Posts: 3846
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Yes
Location: Adelaide
I'd guess it'd be comparing the colour with the colour squares. To get the right colour.

Oxygen is added when the water is moved around. Try one straight from the system, try another that you've put in a water bottle and shaken the crap out of. The one that you've shaken should be far higher.

But for a commercial system, I think the probe would be a good investment. Not my money to spend though.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 09:18 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: May 6th, '11, 12:06
Posts: 12206
Gender: Male
Location: Northern NSW
My interpritation is to match the colours. 8-10mg/L


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 09:58 
Newbie
Newbie

Joined: Jul 3rd, '14, 16:15
Posts: 24
Gender: Male
Are you human?: if i'm not drunk
Location: Maffra, Gippsland, vic
I agree with Charlie


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 10:10 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
User avatar

Joined: Feb 23rd, '07, 03:48
Posts: 6715
Location: Lyonville Victoria
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Lyonville
If it was 2mg/L most everything in your system would be dead so its a pretty good guess that its 8-12.

A confusing test is often worse than no test. If your doing this for real I say drop the cash and get a DO probe.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 10:46 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: Oct 22nd, '13, 10:36
Posts: 116
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Almost
Location: Australia nsw
hi,
whats your water temperature? do saturation falls with rising temperature.
you might have reached maximum dosat. and could reduce energy consumption without dropping do.
ben


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 12:07 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
User avatar

Joined: Feb 23rd, '07, 03:48
Posts: 6715
Location: Lyonville Victoria
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Lyonville
I wouldn't try going there without a do probe.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 12:09 
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor

Joined: Oct 22nd, '13, 10:36
Posts: 116
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Almost
Location: Australia nsw
true!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 14:44 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Aug 26th, '10, 07:17
Posts: 9104
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Oregon, USA
swanberg wrote:
Test Kit wrote:
Place the test vial on a white part of the color scheme and compare the colors by looking from above.


The key here is to "place the test vial on a white part" so in my opinion this would mean that you not place it over the colored blocks to do your comparison. I would read that first test as somewhere around an 8. The position of the light lets you see the reflection of your colored blocks in the water and makes the solution look darker than it is (look closely and you'll see the distorted shape of the colored block reflected in the water in your first test image). It's critical that the volumes be right since you're reading the test from above.

If there is any doubt I'd give the manufacturer a call :thumbright:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 16:59 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mar 24th, '10, 13:00
Posts: 5086
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Daughters think not
Location: Horsham, Victoria, Australia
Just ordered one of these kits to try out, along with another api master kit and another pump.................
I shouldnt visit these sites when bored at work :D


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 17:46 
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Jan 24th, '13, 08:01
Posts: 1548
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Sometimes
Location: Australia, Victoria, Northern Suburbs
Instructions:

Add to the test cial 5ml of water.
Add 5 drops of O2-1 and swirl gently for 20 seconds. Do not shake since this could change the oxygen content of the water too much.
Add 6 drops of O2-2 and swirl gently for 15 seconds. Allow to stand for marine water 5 minutes and other types of water for 1 minute.
Add 6 drops of O2-3 and swirl for 20 seconds. Allow 30 seconds for color development.
Place the test vial on a white part of the color scheme and compare the colors by looking from above. An immediate color corresponds to an intermediate oxygen content. The values on the color chart are in mg/l (ppm) oxygen.

Try to maintain in fresh water (aquarium of garden pond) an oxygen content of 8mg/l or higher. In marine water an oxygen concentration of atleast 7mg/l is advisable. Some fish need higher oxygen concentrations.


Attachments:
Selifert.jpg
Selifert.jpg [ 32.15 KiB | Viewed 10268 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 17:52 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
User avatar

Joined: Feb 23rd, '07, 03:48
Posts: 6715
Location: Lyonville Victoria
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Lyonville
Who reads the instructions? :dontknow:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 15th, '14, 18:37 
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Jan 24th, '13, 08:01
Posts: 1548
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Sometimes
Location: Australia, Victoria, Northern Suburbs
Stuart Chignell wrote:
Who reads the instructions? :dontknow:




Stuart 2 hours of frustration will always beat 10 minutes of reading the manual :laughing3:


Seriously those test are so hard to read, they must be viewed in the right light conditions, you can't read it in full sun or have any side light. You need too be in subdued light, any readings I take I do in my fernery under shade cloth and block out any side light.

That particular test is harder too read than an API test it's one colour only that is measured in shades, rather than the API test that will start with one colour and go through to another completely different colour.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Jul 16th, '14, 05:53 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
User avatar

Joined: Feb 23rd, '07, 03:48
Posts: 6715
Location: Lyonville Victoria
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Lyonville
For Oxygen you really need a higher resolution than that kit gives. You also need to be able to check different areas of your system. For me (and my trout) I need to know when the DO is below 6mg/l (should be never) but the rest of the time I'm checking differences between intlets and outlets with often less than 1mg/L difference.

Since Karen has a small commercial system this is a commercial discussion: drop the cash and get a good DO meter and probe. All jokes aside read the instructions, especially the care and maintenance instructions (some sensors need a bit more care than others). In a well designed system you should never get a low DO reading but the point of the meter is to eliminate O2 as a risk factor when trying to identify problems, reduce your stress levels and to tell you how much to panic when the power goes off and stays off or your come into the GH and find the FT half full.

For BYAP peoples its different because not many can justify the $600-1000 dollars for a good DO meter.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC + 8 hours


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye
[ Time : 0.052s | 16 Queries | GZIP : Off ]