bcotton wrote:
you have obviously put a lot of thought into this design and i look forward to seeing how it turns out. You must not have the black clay soil we have in dallas because i cant imaging digging a 3'x19' hole in my yard by hand.
Ahh if only it were clay. Look at the video. It goes down 6 to 18 inches then solid limestone. I will need a jackhammer to finish it.
bcotton wrote:
i calc 3500 gallon fish tank at 228"x60"x60" unless you are talking about the whole footprint of the tank where we must removed 8" cinderblock widthx2 and 8"x2 length which would set it at 2400 gallons?
The dimensions I gave were approximate inside dimension of the tank so your calculation seems right.
bcotton wrote:
I am not picturing where or how many grow beds you are planning on putting in there but i think maybe you settling tank is going to limit the volume of grow beds you can flood and drain. A 55 gallon barrel is about 27" tall. if you put the stand pipe and the midway point that gives you about 13 inches of rise and fall flexibility. 228"x60"x13" is about 770 gallons assuming the tank is completely full. 770 gallons can probably flood and drain ~1400 gallons of the average media types, again assuming the tank is completely full.. In the hottest summer months you can lose up to 3% water (~100 gallons) a day from evaporation and transpiration. (i average 15-20% a week from late june til sept). so you will have to keep the tank topped off daily to reach your grow bed potential. Obviously that can be circumvented with some or all grow beds constant flood. Just pointing this out. It sounds like you may be doing this more for the aquaculture than the vegetative growth which is fine. I tend to think the other way around so maybe my concerns don't apply to you.
Hmm you do have a point. I might be better off with one tall long tank than something like a 55 gallon drum. I suppose I could weld together two drums to give a larger height to the filters. I had already planned on connecting a solids rated pump in the bottom of the settling tank to be able to flush the tank. I have heard recommendations of a float valve activation in addition to the manual activation so that any torrential rain doesn't flood the system. I could make the settling tank out of the same block if I wanted to by simply partitioning the pond area to a small area that contains the settling tank so it would be of the same construction as the pond. However I do have to account for overflow and water in transit. I had debated putting a large underground rainwater cache / sump tank in the yard near the pond. I am going to have to do some more calculations on this.
As for grow beds, I didn't enumerate them in the original post. They will be a bit further away from the pond in the corner of my yard. I will build them also of concrete block. The pond when completed should be 3'3" above ground and if I can get my grow beds a foot or two lower than the top of the pond, I would be able to use gravity to feed the garden beds and then get away with a single pump from sump to weir. I had also planned on having one or more raft beds for lettuce production.
However I do want the ability to be able to maintain the system in the winter so a shut off to the garden beds that allows me to just use the standard pond filter would be a good thing. The pond should be more than sufficient to overwinter fish.
bcotton wrote:
I think you are over concerned about algae growth. I run 1500 gallons of fish tanks and i have an algae bloom about once every year that last for a couple of weeks then dies out and is then subdued by a naturally occurring enzyme for the rest of the year. The water quality is otherwise very clear and good. My only filtration is mt grow beds and i maybe turn my tank over once an hour.. maybe not quite once an hour, but i dont keep a high fish load. Is the koi filter solely for the purpose of algae control? or do you need more filtration because you are going to have a small mass of grow beds?
Good to hear about algae. The filtration is basically because I want the pond to be ornamental as well as functional and I also want to be able to shut off the flow to the garden beds in the circumstance that I need to do that. I would like the fish to have as good of an environment as possible so that they are as healthy as possible. If the gardens are shut off because it is freezing outside then I want the fish to still flourish.
bcotton wrote:
Again, neat project, please dont take anything i said as criticism, just academic. i always like to read and understand large backyard style builds with alternative materials. If you have seen one ibc/blue barrels build you have seen them all.
Oh my, Please do continue to critique. Better now than later when I have it all installed. I am talking about this pond on Koiphen as well because there is so much expertise there. (I am wondering if I can keep Koi with food fish also). Id rather be corrected with you guys' superior knowledge.
The one thing that concerns me now is jumping fish. I don't want to put a net over the pond for aesthetics but I don't want my fish on the patio either.