Backyard Aquaponics
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Really low blow when the guy busts his balls to look after families having a bit of fun growing their own fish. So what if he is putting his price up. People can choose to buy TM fish or fish from somewhere else. I would pay double TM prices just for the fact he delivers them to my tank. Shit happens and we all do what we can to pay the bills

Geez, that makes the loss of my 30 fish look like nothing.

It must have been heart aching watching that many going belly up.

Yea when i had roughly 100 perch die, i could basically fit them all into my cupped hands, there is likely to be thousands and thousands of fish in those buckets.

Well you would know your business better than us but it does beg the question why didn't you have a bigger backup in place?

I know you said in a few weeks it wouldn't be a problem but just before you sell a crop is when it is at its most valuable which I would have thought is when it is most important to have your backup capable of doing its job?

I really feel for you because its a sickening pit in your stomach when you go out to see dead fish in a tank.

So you will be improving your backup systems in time for next year?

You, sir, are a knob.

Maybe he should have taken a photo of them floating so you could recommend a white spot treatment that is unsafe for fish intended for human consumption again.

I think its because he did more fish than normal, if i did something as a once off i wouldnt spend all my extra profits just to guarantee that the risk is worth it, once you do that you might as well not have taken the risk.
Im sure if he had planned on doing those number a few years in a row he would have upgraded.

I first assumed that he didn't have the money or that it wasn't worth the money.

Like I said he would be in the best place to make the call but it does seem like an avoidable mistake. We have all done stuff and then looked back and said to our selves "that was dumb".

Well I have had the current back up system in place for about 7 years and it has saved fish many many times over those years. In that time its generally been power outages which apart from one occasion when I had no power for over 30hrs (and had the gennie running) its usually only off for 5 hrs or less. About a month back I had a power outage for 3.5hrs when I wasnt here and there were actually 1000 more fish in two of the tanks and everything was fine. I dont know how long the shed was without power but given the result it must have been quite a while.

The problem with Recirc systems is that there are so many things that can go wrong and its pretty hard to cover them all. If the power goes out and you have a backup gennie that starts automatically thats great but in this circumstance when the circuit breakers come in to effect it wouldnt have saved the day. I know a guy who lost a whole crop of plate sized ready fish one year when his 7kw pump running the whole system died. He had automatic backup generators but if the pump is stuffed its useless. End result he lost around $70 000 worth of fish. Stories like this are common with Recirc systems which is why the majority of farmed fish produced come from cages, ponds or flow through systems which are cheaper to operate and far less risk.

Thanks for all the support guys, I have even had some people offer to pay me more than the $3 ea for a fish I was asking. Do you get customers like that Bio??

I'm disgusted by the language and the attitude of some member, starting with those who are in support of trout murderers and even justify the price rise due to their incompetence!
The worst of all is to ear that some raise fish for fun! no wonder so many trout death in this industry!
like I said before.....there are more fish death in the AP industry than any other occurring circumstances!
Your mentality is the same mentality that has been passing bills from government's mistake down to taxpayer money!
Not your fault!....it's our predecessors that have left us in this reality! the same reason why you would take antibiotics!

One more intellectually developed creature! OMG... you guys come by the truck! Werdna, you can make up stories and convinced yourself and others of anything you like, read messages the way you like to then re-interpret ate the way you want.

oh jesus Bio, just go sit in a hole for a bit and calm down.
Your first remark was clearly a jab at TM that wasnt needed.


TM, if i were in WA etc, i would buy them all off you for turtle food, shipping to Vic would be nigh on impossible.
If you have time to ring a couple of places - zoo, reptile park - someone might buy the dead ones off you.

Luckly I don't have to inflate price to make up for my incompetence!
And luckily I do not have customer who support fish mass murderer!

Not everyone recognise Hitler as a murderer, it was supported by his fellow companion! and that is what I see!

My client are not in support of bad practice and lack of responsibility.

Gees Bioaquafarm...you are seriously inviting some ill feeling today.

Sure you can design and install more robust backup systems but they cost money. TM may not have been in a position to afford control and alarm systems to deal with the issues he mentioned above.

Are you going to have a go at all the Australian farmers who lost thousands of sheep and cattle this year during our bush fire system because they didn't have any let alone adequate fire suppression systems installed on their properties?

Well.... ill feeling have been generated by someone practice and attitude, every one else mentality just fuelled it!

.... is either the cost of the extra equipment to keep fish alive in a worst case scenario....... or the extra cost of accident passed down to clients...

I should ask my clients to pay for my insurance then....
Or just overstocking to justify the expenses and recover the cost and losses......

How can you even compare what has happen as a result of a natural disaster that has not been managed properly to what one mans bad practice has generated or the way it has been handled!

I really wonder sometimes what is wrong with you people over there!