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PostPosted: Dec 11th, '13, 04:29 
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hi is a phote of my harvest
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and here is newly planted seedlings
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ph at 6.8
ammonia at 0.25ppm
nitrite at 0ppm
nitrate at 5ppm
conductivity at 360 micro siemens.

it try a new growing method recommend by a local grower which uses newpaper as its root zone media. also tryin out a new filter concept to see if what he say is actually going to work out. well update u on the progress colours.


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colours I'm not sure if this is still active but was this a similar problem in your aquaponic system..?

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and look at this picture to see the improvement to the plant health. u should notice the same leaf at the bottom of the pic.

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brief update..

ph at 7.0
ammonia at 0ppm
nitrite at 0ppm
nitrate at 0ppm
conductivity at 330 micro siemens.

the filter concept the farmer referred to me works perfectly especially for fruiting plants like tomatoes. I never need to add calcium nor potassium to buffer my pH because my pH never drops nor rise. never add iron neither because I don't see iron deficiency anymore. The filter balances the entire system. and the best thing is that u its not advised to clean it out. A lot of ppl always stress that solids left in your system will make anaerobic areas. and thats bad for your system. They aren't totally correct. I explain my findings if u are interested in it Colours. In the meantime here is a bit of pics.

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ok here goes. anaerobic areas in plant growing areas are dangerous to plants and fishes. but there is a difference between anaerobic areas and stagnant areas. there is great benefits in the introduction of a bit of anaerobic areas especially if its in located within the fitering medium. anaerobic areas mineralizes waste alot better than aerobic areas. there is also a second benefit to anaerobic areas. it literally balances off your nutrients composition. meaning the ratio between your nitrates to your other minerals like calcium and potassium is remarkable. anaerobic areas convert excess nitrates to nitrogen gas which bleeds out your system very quickly if I may add. but dont get me rong. if within your filter becomes stagnant the problems starts arizing. first sign is the scent of hydrogen sulphide naste scent. secondly it seems like the only bateria that survives is the one that concerts ammonia to nitrites(forgot the name of bateria) and hence I'm sure u read and seen for yourself that in gravel beds that has stagnant areas when disturbed u suddenly see a spike in nitrite readings.. which results in fish mortalities. thats y I said there is a difference between anaerobic and stagnant. but anyhow if u still aren't convinced bout this theory.. isnt in all humans there anaerobic environment in your intestine to mineralize food in just 4 hrs umm makes u think huh.

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aerobic areas converts all available dissolved ammonia into nitrates quickly.. but the other nutrients such as phosphate and calcium are locked away within the solid waste and cannot be mineralized fast enough to keep with the nitrates production. and ontop of that ppl removes solids so quickly from their systems to never be able to see the full benefits of the fish waste. and hence due to abnormal nitrates ratio we are constantly fighting a pH buffering war. simply because our mineralization is too onesided towards aerobic only. Once we strike the balance between anaerobic and aerobic your system pH will sit at or near 7. and will not need to supplement anything anymore and for once we can call aquaponics a fully organic no chemicals systems with not industrial additives and still get great results. if u are interested in taking the chance to try it yourself I can advise u on the type of filters to use. just remember to always have aerated water following thru it at all times or it will go stagnant fast. let me know if u want to take the jump. we can try it together. :D

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Why yes, the RSG filter. Many many posts on it.


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There are also studies that show that plants actually benefit from small quantities of hydrogen sulphide. Something about it being an adaptation from the major extinction caused by the ocean currents stoping.


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read the whole thread. it was very beneficial and very accurate. but I didn't use their RSG design filter. I actually modified a RFF design filter to incorporate my anaerobic environment. but I saw a great mineralization from this design. if u are interested I can share what I learnt.

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umm I may have to deconstruct my existing one to show the components but I'll hada wait till next week. I'm bac to work from tomorrow. will hada do it on my off days. but hows your plants coming along. did the potassium addition help out the situation..?

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The potassium fixed absolutely everything. The plants grew again, looked healthier, leaves larger and tomatoes started fruiting. Also my bug infestation disappeared presumably cause the cell walls thickened. But I have since harvested my trout, we had to drain the water to catch them and the system was refilled using dam water, it is relying purely on pee ponics now until my silver perch arrive. Everything is doing really really well. More than I can eat.


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PostPosted: Feb 16th, '14, 15:09 
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Colours I haven't forgotten you here is my thread I'll answer all your questions there if you are still interested.
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