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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 08:42 
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Well I for one appreciate Everyone's input on ap on this forum. The way I see it, advise on this forum is free, it is your choice whether to use the information or not.
Stupid banter like this should be taken up behind the bike shed not on this family friendly forum.
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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 08:45 
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Back to subject, I'm curious as to the height in the cf system BA stated, 2" I think, is this in a 12" high bed?


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 08:48 
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A ménage a trois.... don't you guys know anything... :D


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 08:54 
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I'm too busy to bother with you sorry bio


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 08:55 
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I thought CF normally run with a 2 inch level of water from the bottom! at least that is what I've seen around.

No.. that would be SCF ... Subsurface Continuous Flow....

Sometimes mistaken as CFMS..... Continuous Flow Mock Stream

Or even more mistakenly when applied to media filled pipes... NFT.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 09:27 
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bioaquafarm wrote:
I thought CF normally run with a 2 inch level of water from the bottom! at least that is what I've seen around.

No.. that would be SCF ... Subsurface Continuous Flow....

Sometimes mistaken as CFMS..... Continuous Flow Mock Stream

Or even more mistakenly when applied to media filled pipes... NFT.... :lol:



LOL, screw you. :P

But seriously, when you fill pipes with media, there isnt much hope in only having a small amount at the bottom, it always ends up CF, and a high level CF i found.


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 09:29 
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Well put Sleepe and Skeggley.

Lets keep this mature and civil.


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 09:32 
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Well that got a bit feral. :)
How about we all sit on our hands for a while and think nice thoughts. :)

I agree. It is a pity it went that way. Bio has a very nice looking large system and unlike most of us, appears to be making commercial use of it all.

If we disagree with something a person says, surely there is a better way to express it than derogatory comments? (And yes, it is a lesson I am still trying to learn) For example, asking bio what he thought CF was might have brought out that his view/experience of it is different than what most CF'ers are running. Another example is, asking Charlie just how much poop was in the GB he cleaned out might have led to a discussion on how much is normal in both systems.

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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 09:35 
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I'm sure your or anyone else system is working somehow, and yeas I have no idea of how much crap is in your GB so as you about mine, on the other hand I do know exactly what is in the bottom of my GB.....and it's nothing like what I've seen on photos of some CF beds.

It's all with the design mate!

when u will walk a mile in my shoes we can talk about it.



If you know whats in the bottom, then it means you are looking through your GB, disturbing the media, so half of your sludge is disturbed and washed away before you even see it.

i bet you havent been running the same bed for 2+ years without disturbing it have you?


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 09:43 
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bioaquafarm - You clearly know everything and your superiority complex is astounding.
Why waste your time on this site with all us newbies that don't know a thing.

Shouldn't you be farming or peddling your BS?

Off you go now, bye bye
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I was trying to share some passionate knowledge but once again I see the cancer on this forum, what's wrong with you guys....maybe you are right I should invest time in a better place.



Maybe thats wise, but good luck finding a place that will accept you with an attitude like yours.


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 10:17 
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bioaquafarm wrote:
scotty435 wrote:
If you keep your fish stocking and feeding within the systems capacity to filter the solids everything is golden, no matter which system you're using. Over 2 years without the need to cleanout the growbeds and running CF :thumbright:

bioaquafarm wrote:
I thought CF normally run with a 2 inch level of water from the bottom! at least that is what I've seen around.


Yeah right, if this is what you thought then I find it hard to believe you've seen any CF systems, yet now you're an expert? :roll: - pretty lame.



If you run a CF with the water level under 1 inch from the top then you might want to call It DWCGB! why bother? more of the back yard nonsense!


Hi Bio,

I just read through this thread and was a bit surprised to see that the CF systems you have seen have around 2 inches of water on the bottom.
I run CF and around 1 inch from the surface (which i thought was about the norm for a CF system) and have never heard of what you were describing (although I am quite the noob so maybe not that strange :D ).
Also I was confused by why you would say "why bother?' in relation to CF and having the water 1 inch from the surface... i mean doesn't your timed F&D system fill to within and inch or two of your media surface before it drains? and don't you have worms in your bed that like more space than the 2 inches at the bottom? if we didn't flood high we would certainly concentrate the fish waste in a smaller area and reduce the surface area for bacteria to grow on the media since it would be dry? I imagine many of the reasons for F&D water level would be the same for CF? or am i missing something? :think:
Also I think the argument going on between some of you in this thread (and I am deliberately not pointing fingers ) is not highlighting the difference between the commercial system and backyard system... especially how the build up of solids could differ between a commercial system and a backyard one in the relation to fish feeding rates and stocking densities :D
Anyway.. I like you system Bio and have been following your thread but maybe you are being a little presumptuous with you beliefs about whats best when some of the people giving their opinions on this thread have got a lot of experience both in commercial and backyard setups... :thumbleft:


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 10:43 
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This thread was answered by post 5, the tests have already been done.

From there it has deteriorated rapidly.

Why is it still going?


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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 10:50 
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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 11:03 
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PostPosted: Oct 10th, '13, 11:22 
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