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PostPosted: Jan 17th, '13, 02:46 
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What is that other variety of tomatoes Rupe? I.e not the Roma wall


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PostPosted: Jan 17th, '13, 08:12 
Most are Grosse Lisse Luke...


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PostPosted: Jan 22nd, '13, 03:17 
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jdphish wrote:
A little aside note, not meant to hijack thread. When pouring the concrete slab, I very much wanted to install coils for hydronic (I think thats the word) heating and cooling. The contractor talked me out of it. I would love to know if someone has ever tried that and with what results. It may add significant expense up front but pay dividends in long term low cost climate control. Some times I have trouble staying in "the box." :think:


I've never been able to do it... but a geology instructor explained why underground construction in deserts made so much sense... 15" below ground, the temp stabalizes.

OF COURSE it would be a good idea to plumb below the earth to stabilize water temps, and run alongside with 'waste water size ' tubing to move air, as well-- instant A.C. with no electricity, barring a simple fan on both ends.

Your contractor doesn't understand low-e adaptations, and needs to be taken to school.

An ideal layout would be to trench at roughly 4', zig-zg the pipes, laying earth over each layer up to your '15" depth, then cover. My fantasy would be to trench every four feet... and do it again, over the area of your property. You would have a year-round stable air flow, and a year-round 'chiller'/ 'heater' for your water to mean temp, year round. If you have only a closed system for air temp -- that is great. However, if you go a little deeper (you'd need to keep the water moving without heat... so, geyser pumps? and would have to keep the water level... etc....)and let the depth act as a low-e chiller to rear 'cold water fish'...


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So... where is the produce going? Just to feed the happy workers... or is there a community bank that shares the bounty?
I'm deeply impressed. And jealous.


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PostPosted: Jan 26th, '13, 20:42 
Bit of maintenance today... and brought home a few tomatoes... and a bit of rhubarb... (amongst other things)...

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Leaves look like elephant ears...

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PostPosted: Jan 26th, '13, 20:44 
I really wish I'd taken the camera down... I would have videod the Silver Perch feeding.... for all those that say that Silvers are boring....

They were smashing the food like trout... throwing water all over the place....


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How are the fish being fed automatically each day?

I noticed a couple of times you mentioned "sides being left down" causing issues, ever thought of automating the rolling up and down of the sides to make it more "foolproof" eg arduino says 27 degree inside....roll up the sides.....temps drop in the evening....sides go back down.


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PostPosted: Aug 25th, '13, 12:21 
Automated curtain winders... and greenhouse ventilation controllers... are industry stock standard Dean... (and don't use Arduino)...

But the budget didn't allow for them...


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RupertofOZ wrote:
Automated curtain winders... and greenhouse ventilation controllers... are industry stock standard Dean... (and don't use Arduino)...

But the budget didn't allow for them...



....well maybe they should have used Arduino....and been able to afford it :P


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PostPosted: Aug 25th, '13, 12:23 
And the fish are hand fed each day... or were...

Politics and the lack of reliable labour/supervision.. has meant the system is being wound down.... fish have been removed...


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PostPosted: Aug 25th, '13, 12:24 
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Politics and the lack of reliable labour/supervision.. has meant the system is being wound down....


Great.....more of my tax dollars being wasted.


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PostPosted: Aug 25th, '13, 12:25 
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....well maybe they should have used Arduino....and been able to afford it :P

Haven't seen too many 8 mtr x 24 mtr greenhouses... reliably controlled by Arduino controllers Dean... :lol:


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PostPosted: Aug 25th, '13, 12:26 
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Great.....more of my tax dollars being wasted.

You don't know the half of it... :lol:


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Dean.Collins wrote:
....well maybe they should have used Arduino....and been able to afford it :P

Haven't seen too many 8 mtr x 24 mtr greenhouses... reliably controlled by Arduino controllers Dean... :lol:


Size of the chips don't make a difference....come on Rupert, I have high praise but don't try and blame the tools here.

This project failed and the $240k tax dollar funds is now wasted.

You yourself in your own posts pointed out many times that the lack of supervision meant heat issues - there should have been more up front automation (especially feeding/cooling).

Saying an arduino cant provide the cpu to manage this is showing you haven't used them.


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PostPosted: Aug 25th, '13, 12:28 
The infrastructure, which remains... was a fair return on cost... (other monies went elsewhere)....

And the infrastructure will probably be utilised by others for research purposes... or at least that's what is being discussed...


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