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PostPosted: Aug 20th, '13, 17:14 
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Back to the subject...

My wife came from north-middle USA. She had asthma most of her life, quite severely. She'd never seen the sea and Port Phillip Bay ain't really the sea so we made a trip down to back beach at Rye a few months after she got here. (not the swimming/surf beach, a bit further along where you'd have to be a nutter to try swimming)

After about an hour she looked at me in amazement and said she'd just taken the first full breath she could remember. She never took another puff and when symptoms started again later, we made another trip to the beach and cleared them up again. Don't know what it was (negative ions perhaps) but she's never had a problem again, although we do get down to the ocean probably a couple of times a year.


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PostPosted: Aug 21st, '13, 16:14 
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I just noticed my last post was pretty ambiguous since two replies were posted while my connection went wrong.
The praise was for Ron's technowizard glasses.
We need to get you working on making a functioning pair like were once sold to unwitting boys on the back of MAD magazine... :wink:

But to get on topic there is always the controversial "black salve" treatment for melanoma.
Banned just about everywhere due to suspicions of quackery but still quite intriguing if the testimonials are to be believed.

http://www.oneanswertocancermovie.com/a ... _story.htm


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They do function. Comfort is another thing...

Slippery elm is the natural remedy for skin cancers.


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I just noticed my last post was pretty ambiguous since two replies were posted while my connection went wrong.
The praise was for Ron's technowizard glasses.
We need to get you working on making a functioning pair like were once sold to unwitting boys on the back of MAD magazine... :wink:

But to get on topic there is always the controversial "black salve" treatment for melanoma.
Banned just about everywhere due to suspicions of quackery but still quite intriguing if the testimonials are to be believed.

http://www.oneanswertocancermovie.com/a ... _story.htm



Black Salve is made from Creosote-- toxic when used wrong, as so very things are.

Creosote tea is an all-purpose cancer/tumor treatment among native Americans in the Southwest where it grows. I don't know if there is an AU variety. I did use it for three different 'pre-cancerous' spots I was sporting. It worked... but- I have a different growth pattern that it didn't work on-- the variations on a theme are endless, after all, and we uniquely effect our own host of bugs and growth. There really is a reason they call medicine a 'practice'. Our unique allergies, or responses are based on genetics and diet, which no two folk do precisely the same.

I developed a hormone sensitive breast cancer... I fear that I panicked... and rather than use knowledge I had, I went ahead with chemo. I would not recommend it for anyone. While 'breast cancer at early stages' (my tumor was tiny, but cancer runs in the family on my mom's side... so I may have over-reacted.) and the treatment was 'lighter than...' other cancers/patients, the poison is still in my system. Or, maybe I should say the 'effect of the poison' remains. My brain function is not what it was. I have to work to find vocabulary... which means parts of my retrieval mechanism was damaged. I can't remember how to spell things... when I write or type, my b's and p's are often confused... I see it, and I fix it, but neither my fingers or my brain seem to catch it before it happens.

If I'd not panicked, I believe I would have gone to nutrition. My Auntie was our 'nutrition' specialist... she used a combination of carrot juice and goats' milk to save my brother, who it was thought had some kink or other in his small intestine. He could not hold down any of the 'formula' we tried... he'd drink two oz... then it would come back up. In two days of carrot juice, he was taking a six oz bottle... and no return.
Was he merely allergic? Distinct possibility. We didn't have insurance or money in those days... so- Doc's may have just not cared, there was a kid who didn't respond... must be something wrong with the kid.

There are a number of 'tumor shrinkers.' Creosote tea is just one of 'em. We have a fine old tree in the back yard at my mom's... so harvesting leaves is a breeze. The stuff tastes... unusual. The natives would do a cup every two to four hours... Teaching would have made it tough, but not impossible.

The question I have would have been more what 'triggered my tumor'- with the 'hormone sensitivity.' There is so much 'hormone' in our environment... and then, there are the plastics that leach compounds that 'mimic' hormones... suggesting that my environment hit its 'limit' for the hormone that triggered me. Oral Birth Control over-dosed to hit its effective range-- the rest went out in the urine... so, all that over-dose is now in the water/ re-processing back into our water reservoir. In Vegas-- the water comes out of Lake Mead, then the sewerage plant is on the other side of the lake... so it is diluted when the water reaches the 'straw' to pull back up for the water system, but it still recirculates.


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PostPosted: Aug 22nd, '13, 09:01 
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@dancinhrblady - you can retrain the brain. Your info is stored in Mind, not in neurons, so it is possible to reroute even vital functions by using other untainted sections of the wetware. Have a look into neurofeedback.

My trigger to what is wrong with our 'environment' (we call 'environment' the world around so I mean the biosphere in which we personally surround ourselves, not the broader one but even that broader version is in trouble because of us) was fluoride. I've read the disinformation about how it isn't bad for us and etc. et.c and it doesn't wash.

I've used Reverse Osmosis for all water entering my body or cooking for over 15 years now because of the fluoride poisoning. The Science ISN'T in at all, no matter what Big Pharma and our Govts tell us. The evidence says fluoride might, repeat MIGHT have an effect on milk teeth but there is strong evidence that says if you're over 10-12 it CAN'T effect your teeth.

What evidence there is suggest brushing your teeth with fluoride works, but they will not run comparisons on brushing your teeth with nothing compared to brushing your teeth with fluoride. And there is not only zero ev8dence drinking the shit has any benefit, there is strong evidence linking it to all kinds of illness.

So alcohol, cigarettes and sugar are not only legal but almost mandated by advertising, despite the known detrimental effects, but we are forced to drink poison to prevent holes in our teeth? Something is very wrong with that world view.

Essiac tea has 90 years of history with successes racked up against cancers of all kinds, yet when it was 'noticed' in Australia, the authorities promptly banned it. Not tested, not checked it out, banned it. Essiac tea is made from 4 kinds of plants, using bark, leaves and roots (I think) and was introduced to the European world from Ojibway natives (might have the tribe wrong, the reading was a long time back)

The regularity with which cures are banned and the practitioners driven from the medical world suggests there is a very powerful imperative running to ensure we only ever get palliative medicine. Any industry actually interested in cures would at the least, test to the nth degree any possible cure for such horrific illnesses as cancer or the other ones killing thousands.

But holes in the teeth are SO SERIOUS we get laws passed to insist everybody drinks poison.

Something is fishy in Denmark and it ain't the mackerel.

That's why I thought this thread might be useful. Many people have picked up little things along the path of their lives that DO work. From cures for disease to things like soaking smelly feet in tea to remove the smell. There are many people out there who scramble to counter such things by parroting the official line, but when you look at the Science itself, the lies and propaganda begin to show.

And looking at the Science means also looking at WHO is doing it. A now-classic example is the cries of bias raised against those countering the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) scam. By loudly (and thoroughly reported by the Mainstream Media (MSM) screaming about how industry and businesses were backing those researching the actual world climate, the AGW'ers managed to get the people to ignore the billions THEY were being paid to promote the scam.

Another example is the 2nd hand smoking scam. While it is clear people should not expose young children to smoke OF ANY KIND, there is no evidence at all that anyone can 'catch' lung cancer from the smoke exhaled by smokers. None. The Editor of the British Medical Journal upheld (until threatened with sacking and the end of any medical career) the principles of Science by publishing the data accumulated from the same studies the anti-smoking lobby was touting as absolute evidence.

Science is being used as a tool. As the new Religion it is used to give people false information, coming down with the imprimatur of Total Authority of the White Coat and to get them to ignore even their own senses and jump onto bandwagons specifically constructed to drive money from their pockets into the bottomless pits of the venal psychopaths who run our Corporations and Govts.

So if we want to be healthy, we need to remove ourselves from the treadmill-to-death they have us on. Chemicals in the food and water are NOT there for our benefit, no matter what your local councilman thinks.

GM crops have yet to actually pass any safety tests let alone manage to remain within the boundaries established specifically to prevent them entering unchecked into the world around us. GM crops have caused a rash of suicides in India as farmers not only have to pay 100 times more for seed (and can't save seed for the following year) but had their crops fail on them. No compensation, no redress. And with the GM side fully supported by their own Govt.

Vaccinations kills many thousands and it never reaches the pages of our media; India was declared free of smallpox in 2011 and the vaccine distributed that year killed 45,000 from Non-Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis - strangely none of this appeared in the MSM.

From NSNBC we have:
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“In 2011 there were an extra 47500 new cases of NPAFP [non-polio acute flaccid paralysis]. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Through this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated.”


Almost everywhere you look you can find evidence that things are NOT being done for our benefit and what we would consider normal care standards are being ignored or even deliberately broken. The biggest problem with seeing the issues is that it is so widespread, so all-encompassing and so evil in intent, it is almost impossible to believe.

Look at Bradley Manning - kangaroo court that refused to let him testify as to motive and would not let any testimony as to lack of harm from his actions. The guy is a whistleblower who, by his own words, acted out of a moral outrage. Wikileaks took extraordinary care to ensure nothing they released would lead to harm for any frontline personnel and we have yet to be informed, to this day, of ANY harm coming from wikileaks.

Yet they are calling for 60 years in gaol for him. Punitive beyond rational levels? Certainly, but how else do you stop people from acting ethically when they see official malfeasance?

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PostPosted: Aug 22nd, '13, 21:14 
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See, now about this time, most of you ''but teacher told me' types are backing away slowly and trying to not make eye contact... but the truth is, almost all of what you believe is truth is not Truth. You are not your body, and you can't deal with your 'mental' issues by pretending chemical signatures in your brain are actually YOU.

That is just not how it all works, and the EVIDENCE says so.

Here is biological FACT. Feel free to go to ANY biological "Authority" and ask them. We can NOT identify the 'GOD' cell. Never mind the Higgs boson, we cannot find the cell in our physical description of the Human that lets us be Human. There is NO 'god cell!'

See... ALL cells work the same. A signal comes in, and gets transferred into the cell. Things INSIDE the cell react to the impulse/signal and 'read' the DNA and create a protein which heads out to do shit.

This is how cells work. Ask any biologist.

Unless you find a biologist who is also a Scientist, you will not hear the next question... which cell creates the signal?

See... ALL cells work the same way, including neurons. A signal comes in and the protein is produced and an action goes forth.


So... when you decide to smack me upside the head for daring to ask this... which cell initiates the swing of the arm?

Take your time... Think it through... Ask any of the mainstream 'experts' you wish to consult...

Who are you and just WHO decides what you do, think, are...?


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PostPosted: Aug 22nd, '13, 23:51 
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Who are you and just WHO decides what you do, think, are...?

I am the sum total of all my cells.... they define who I am.. what I think... and do....

Other peoples cells.. may have an entirely different perspective of who I am.... what I think.. and what I do... :lol:


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, we cannot find the cell in our physical description of the Human that lets us be Human.

There is defective DNA that let's us be human. When comparing DNA between chimpanzees and humans, very few dissimilarities came up. One that did was in the gene that is responsible for jaw muscles. In chimpanzees, it is perfect. In humans, it is literally damaged. Chimpanzees have thick powerful jaw muscles. We have thin weak jaw muscles. The thing is, those jaw muscles exert force on the skull. Chimpanzees' skulls fuse early. Ours fuse many years after birth. That gives space for a larger brain. It is that brain that makes us human. We just happen to be the animal with a brain proportionately larger than other animals. What about souls? If you think that animals don't have them, you are deluding yourself.

That reminds me. One of the town homes across the way has new tenants. They were asking if the previous tenants complained about it being haunted. None had... Apparently this ghost closes drawers. They leave drawers open, it closes them. Perhaps they are the first tenants to be lazy enough to leave drawers open. I think that that is a pretty cool way to be haunted though. If their landlord actually knew it was haunted, he could make a pretty penny selling it. Do you know how much a bonafide haunting raises the value of a home? There is a whole market for haunted houses.


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PostPosted: Aug 23rd, '13, 10:59 
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Who are you and just WHO decides what you do, think, are...?

I am the sum total of all my cells.... they define who I am.. what I think... and do....

Other peoples cells.. may have an entirely different perspective of who I am.... what I think.. and what I do... :lol:

Unfortunately, that view is not upheld by the evidence. See, all cells work the same way - a 'signal' comes to the cell and causes an event inside the cell, which (usually) triggers a read of the DNA and causes a protein to be constructed.

All of them are like that.

Many people think DNA is the 'brain' of the cell but it just isn't. It's more like a drawer full of recipes that gets opened when mealtime comes around.

The 'signal' is normally message molecules, or 'activators on bacteria or viruses. The membrane decides whether to reject the input, pass it through or transmit the data into the cell.

All of them work like that. Even the cells in your skull.

So how do you 'decide' to do anything? Where is the activator that kicks off the first chain of messages that result in you swinging your arm, or blinking?

Some we can see clearly come from outside - the hot stove will precipitate a reaction that pulls your hand away. But unless you can make the case that we are simple automatons with no ability at all to do anything but react to the outside world, you have a problem with deciding you are only a conglomerate of cells.

Who or what makes the choices? Who or what starts the chains of events? Who or what initiates thoughts and pursues them to a result?

There are gaping holes in the view of us that we are being fed and it isn't difficult to align those false-to-facts with the onslaught of damaging and dangerous chemicals we are being forced to eat and drink.

It also isn't difficult to align the lack of cures and the ever-growing lists of syndromes and disorders and diseases with the view of the body we are being told is 'Science.' An wrong explanation for who we are allows all kinds of issues to go unhandled. By thinking everything is just cells, we can mock the Ancients with their less 'scientific' processes, even as we map the exact same points in the body that they called acupuncture points.

We use sophisticated machinery to find the equipotential points across the surface of the skin - how did our primitive, superstitious ancestors find those exact same points 5000 years ago?

We are discouraged from making connections. It is mandated we all attend programming sessions for most of our growing years, where we are taught to obey, to accept Authority and to suppress the innate creativity children come to us with. It makes for obedient little workers, content to accept what Authority tells them, even when what they are told is clearly not the case.

I sit dumbfounded at those who know so little of physics that they cannot grasp the 911 towers were demolished. Even if they will listen and look when it is pointed out that the falling debris and the collapsing buildings could not possibly be falling at the same rate, they are unable to grasp thatphysics says it is impossible. Authority told them the 'pancake' explanation and Authority has to be right.

So we take our pills and potions, we accept that the poison in our food and water is good for us, or at least not harmful, and we contribute our own money to bail out criminals who gambled and lost and then got huge windfalls from our pockets so they could keep playing their criminal games.

All this is inter-related. Because we have false-to-facts explanations ingrained into our psyche, we keep trundling along in a system that even a few moments of clear thinking would make obvious that it cannot keep expanding forever. A system that MUST keep expanding or it fails totally.

So, let's list out the cures and treatments discovered by people all over the world, the ones that were in everyday use back before we got told they wouldn't work.


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You lost me at 911... Thankfully all of the family members that I have that worked in the world trade center had not yet gone to work.


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You lost me at 911... Thankfully all of the family members that I have that worked in the world trade center had not yet gone to work.

Yes, I've seen that reaction a lot. Strangely, having people you know at the towers seems in some way to prevent people looking with open eyes at the evidence presented in multiple videos.

I can't work out why those closest to the tragedy seem to think it is better to let the perpetrators get off scot free than it is to face the possibility that they have been lied to on a grand scale. Personally? I'd be after the truth with a vengeance; letting murderers walk away laughing at how gullible I was seems the ultimate insult to me.

All anyone needs to do is look at any of the videos showing the towers coming down and note the debris falling through the air and compare it to the speed of the falling towers. Unless something is cutting out the floors lower than where the planes hit, it is impossible for them to be the same speed. Not unlikely, not complicated, just impossible.

And that one fact makes the official explanation a pack of lies.

But then, when something so obvious is allowed to stand as some kind of truth, it makes it easy to understand how people get so bamboozled over poisons and contaminants.

When the knowledge of what is really basic Science is so limited that even the glaringly obvious is glossed over the Authority says what they are seeing isn't really so, it is no wonder people listen to glib explanations about the pills and medicines which are not even intended to approximate a cure.

All one can do is keep bringing forward the facts and hope the one in 10,000 with an open mind will notice it and do some thinking.


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People who want to see conspiracies will see conspiracies. The reason you see debris from lower than where the jets hit is because there was fire. A lot of jet fuel was burning. The fuel went under the planes, that is where the fire went to. Keep in mind that the twin towers structural support was all on the outside to allow for open floor plans. There was not as much inside the buildings themselves. Also some of the debris you see falling are people jumping out to get out of the fire. That being said, the physics of what happened is quite simple. The fire burned so hot that the load bearing skin melted outwards enough that the floors pulled away, causing the the skin to collapse in on itself above it. Then the weight of the floors above it compressed the floors below. The construction of the WTC is not the same as most other skyscrapers. Osama Bin Laden is responsible. Our leaders at the time should have seen all of the warning signs and stopped it. But it was not "demolished" in the sense that you say it was.


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Steaming takes about 10 - 15 minutes, depending on how high the heat is - when the skin splits it is just past done.


Love it. That can be applied to a whole lot of situations...

- When the stock market drops, it's just past the time to have sold your stock.
- When the fish go belly up, you should have eaten them yesteday.
- When the wife asks what you got her for your anniversay, you are just past done...


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