Backyard Aquaponics
A place to discuss aquaponics

Hi every body.

Did you ever earing "argo" and "patois"?
"Argo" is a unofficial french language and "patois" is a local old language.
"Gones" is argo's name for "kids" in Lyon my town.
"Aquaponic" in french is "Aquaponie"
So that's why a give to my installation the name AquaGonie

I'm learning many things here, and thanks for all contributions.

I'm start my aquapoinc système in my new house.
I'm write in french here
http://www.aquaponie.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=304

I will report the picture here too. Sorry for my poor english. But you can write to me if i'm making so much mistake and corrected my post. It will be great if I can progress in english too.

In few lines my family.
My wife is doctor specialised. She streats its patients to 30% with food.
I aquarist for 20 years. I'm make a lot of sport and alimentation is so important for me too.
We bought a house at 20km of Lyon the second town in France (1,5M people).
With the purchase of home, we expect to be in almost complete autarky food. We do not eat wheat, virtually no meat, no dairy products. Our diet is based on rice, fruits, vegetables, fish and eggs.
It is therefore natural that we turned to aquaponics and hope to produce the maxium of our needs for 3 or 4 people, throughout the year.
Our system meets strict standards for food in France, but also in terms of our values. For example we outlaw the plastic up. If some parts are plastic we necessarily want quality food.
We promote:
1) natural materials (food stainless steel, wood ...)
2) recycling
3 the perennial solutions

To day the pump was delivred.

Overvue


IN 1"1/4


OUT 1"
The pump is choose and delivre with a automat, for choosing the pressure and the flow

This is some picture of the aquaponic's area, in two parts at the begining
1) Tank's and grow bed area before woks

South side

The drying laundry will be change. the actual hard surface measurement 20m2. Every wall are so strongs (30 cm thick)...



West side



On this picture you can see the distance betwin tank area and technical hard surface (the right the right door). I will make a garden greenhouse but, i've got a lot of restrictions to make construction. It's a countryside area.
In this winter if I did'nt making the greenhouse, I can put the minium on this area. It's small, but with every things.

2) Existing hard portion

North side



South side



Gateway


Tomorrow, I'm rent a utility truck, because my cousin who's making hardwurst like my grandpa doo, she give me a lot a things to make grow beds and tanks. Every parts are food grade.



Grow beds



Tanks

Tomorrow the next step

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Pictures are good now, i think.
Anything else?

Hi Pierre,

Looks like you have a good place to put your system. I visited Lyon 5 or so years back, beautiful place.
That looks like a very big pump that you have bought.. How big is your system going to be (how many litres for fish tank and grow beds)? and how many litres/hour will that pump do and at how many watts?
I was also wondering what some of the most experienced AP people on the forum think of using metal (even food grade) containers for grow beds etc? Could there be any leeching of metals into the water that can cause problems for the fish (or maybe that is just with copper or galvanized parts)?
What kind of temperature range do you get in Lyon during the year and what fish do you think you will use?
Looking forward to seeing your plans develop

I just looked up that pump... it seems to be as large as it looks, are you pumping water to a very high 'head' height? because that pump is made for delivery up to 15 metre head heights?

He mentioned that they are stainless... What grade? He said food grade, but that could be a lot do different grades. The two big no no's are copper and zinc. And we add iron to our systems all the time.

Pierre, what were they used for before? They look like massive bakeware to me.

I'm in the country for the weekend with only my smartphone. I will explain more monday.

All older parts are coming saucage (hardwurst.) making compagny.
My cousin is wrong. Parts are made with aluminium not stanless steal. It's foodgrade too but not the optimum.
Next infos monday early.
Have a good weekend!

Ron,

Is the Iron we add (Iron Chelate) the same as Iron that is leeched from the metals? I thought there was a bit of discussion about this in other threads...like when people said they were going to throw scrap metal into their sumps or fish tanks to increase Iron, but people said that didn't work... but maybe it doesn't do any harm either?

Iron chelate is different than what would be leached from metallic iron. Bioavailability is the biggest difference. Metallic iron put into an anaerobic area is different though, the anaerobic bacteria make the iron bioavailable. But it turns out that the metal Pierre was going to use is aluminum. I would not want that anywhere near my system. The only place aluminum has in an Aquaponic system is the foil you wrap your fish in while barbecuing. Plastic is vastly safer for growbeds and fishtanks.

My vision of optimisation when you're using a car, a truck anything with petrol ()



This is the technical area
13 growbeds (maybe 40l each)
2 fish tank (food grade but made with plastic) (maybe 800l each)
5 tank for reception, flitration (500l mini for 3 bigs and minimum 300l for the smallest)


A overone angle


9 plastics tank beetwen 200 to 240l and on small 150l...

All parts are recycling. It's cost only the truck's rent, two flower bouquets and 2 kiss.

I don't thing i'm using ever thing.
We didn't like aluminium part so, we are thinking a overone solution

Yes, i'm like so much this town, however i'm living to the country, nearly but in campaign


We did'nt know.
We would like to be food self-sufficiency. So we do every thing to be it.
I'm starting with this pump because she's powerfull, foodgrade, can make flexiblity....
I take a risk.


The price can be the problem. A ibc cost 60 euros (50$) for 1000 l. A m-ild milk tank stainless food grade cost 800 euros for the same capacity.


there is a greater range of temperatures.
In winter you can find -10°c
In summer +35°c
You can find trout in river. But it's too hard to watercooling. Aquaculture with trout is difficult.
For the bigning i would like to start with fish cat, but but the law prohibits the transport of the live fish. So, how can you have fish cat in you'r aquaponic système if somebody control you?
So starting with tilapia, but i know i'm must warm water.
I'm will buy solar panels to do it.


You're welcome

Bron is in plane section near 170m' altitude
Vaugneray (my town) is near 500m
-3°c in average
- suntrip increase
- mm rain equal