⚠️ This forum has been restored as a read-only archive so the knowledge shared by the community over many years remains available. New registrations and posting are disabled.

All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 141 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 10  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 02:09 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: May 12th, '13, 02:48
Posts: 260
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: seattle washington
:laughing3: uh, ...um... scratches head... :laughing3:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
    Advertisement
 
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 02:14 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Aug 26th, '10, 07:17
Posts: 9104
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Oregon, USA
lol - glad you liked it. It was a straight line until I blew it up so it would load :D


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 03:04 
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

Joined: Apr 14th, '13, 22:01
Posts: 54
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Cape Town
Hey Rob, if you still aren't sure what's going on, have a look at this:

Image

I took the image from this forum:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12687&p=330128&hilit=slo+internal&sid=07d12d8156bd14ef23ab1e74d7003fff#p330128

Maybe you can learn some more from it.

And yours will end up looking like this:

Image

I would search for 'internal slo' and read around. you'll learn more that way.

With this design you HAVE TO drill a hole through the tank wall and put a seal in. It's the only way that you can stop your FT from over flowing. They use things called uni-seals or bulkheads. You're just going to have to design it properly before you start drilling holes and making a mess.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 03:07 
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

Joined: Apr 14th, '13, 22:01
Posts: 54
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Cape Town
Quote:
It was a straight line until I blew it up so it would load


haha :laughing3: happens to the best of us!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 03:19 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Aug 26th, '10, 07:17
Posts: 9104
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Oregon, USA
8)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 03:59 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: May 12th, '13, 02:48
Posts: 260
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: seattle washington
dan looks like his T is underwater and falling over :o


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 04:03 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: May 12th, '13, 02:48
Posts: 260
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: seattle washington
and alsdo so, should the top of my vent T be even with the top of my GB?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 04:44 
Valued Contributor
Valued Contributor

Joined: Apr 14th, '13, 22:01
Posts: 54
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: Cape Town
The T has just been turned to adjust flow. Your GB should be just below the outlet from your FT. That way the water exits the FT and 'falls' into the GB. It can be level but I would make it slightly lower to be on the safe side.

I don't really see many things that the height of the T can effect, as long as it's drawing air. The important part is that the outlet is lower, as stated in the above sentence. The height you drill your hole in the side of the FT will determine what height your water stays at.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 05:31 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Aug 26th, '10, 07:17
Posts: 9104
Gender: Male
Are you human?: YES
Location: Oregon, USA
Meant to ask you where you found those fish tanks Rob?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 07:26 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: May 12th, '13, 02:48
Posts: 260
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: seattle washington
they are shipping crates made of plastic, i think military engine crates :laughing3:

ok last question before i start cutting, should the inlet pipe hitting my grow beds be at the max water height level or can it go into the BOTTOM of my grow beds and still work as in pic?

note blue line will be water level

this details my whole system for now, look perfect? missing anything?


Attachments:
null_zps709101e8.jpg
null_zps709101e8.jpg [ 204.49 KiB | Viewed 1885 times ]
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 10:28 
Almost divorced
Almost divorced
User avatar

Joined: Aug 9th, '09, 13:14
Posts: 1357
Gender: Male
Are you human?: I'll be baaaack!
Location: SOR, Perth, WA
In order to stop media flushing back into the inlet pipework, you're going to need a media screen over the inlet, and, because the inlet is at the bottom of the GB there is going to be increased back pressure on the water caused by the weight of media and water, and the screen. When employing SLOs the idea is to keep the water moving fast so that solids remain in suspension and can be delivered to the filtration.

You're not going to get an equal distribution of water to each of the GBs. The GB closest to the FT will have a higher volume of water passing through it than the GB which is furthest away from the FT. The difference may not be all that great in the short term, but over the life time of the system the GB closest to the FT will receive much more solid waste. In order to solve this problem, increase the size of the horizontal pipework to act as a common distribution manifold (CDM) and run vertical risers of equal height into each GB. If you're particularly worried that solids may collect in the CDM, simply add a flushing valve to the end of the CDM furthest from the FT and open this on occasion as part of your planned maintenance routine. Delivering water into the top of a GB means you don't need media screens on the water inlet.

If you're going to employ a CDM and risers, include an isolation valve so that individual beds can be taken offline without affecting the rest of the system.

e.g.

Attachment:
possibility3.png
possibility3.png [ 19.2 KiB | Viewed 1875 times ]


Note: the top of the risers must be below the water level in the FT.



$0.02c


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 10:41 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: May 12th, '13, 02:48
Posts: 260
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: seattle washington
ok. wel i have 2" schedule 40 going into the Gb :D , and instead of plumbing into the end i can plumb into the middle easily so its more of a 40/60 split between 2 beds on each side split


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 10:42 
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: May 12th, '13, 02:48
Posts: 260
Gender: Male
Are you human?: no
Location: seattle washington
wait a minute, i see plenty of GB's that are plumbed into the bottom without issue ??


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 11:09 
Almost divorced
Almost divorced
User avatar

Joined: Aug 9th, '09, 13:14
Posts: 1357
Gender: Male
Are you human?: I'll be baaaack!
Location: SOR, Perth, WA
Who says they are "without issue"?

If you must plumb through the bottom of the GB, you'll still achieve the goal by adding an elbow inside the GB to a vertical section which will deliver the water to the top of the GB (from the inside of the GB) and this will alleviate the need for a media screen and allow for improved flow into the GB versus water trying to force its way in through media and a screen at the bottom of the GB. If you use larger diameter piping for delivery then you'll still balance the volumes of water to each GB. I'd still be adding individual isolation valves.

The more holes you have in a container, the more chances there are for leaks, especially when those holes are at the bottom of the container where the pressure is greatest.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 14th, '13, 11:27 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mar 12th, '06, 07:56
Posts: 17803
Images: 4
Location: Perth
Gender: Male
Blog: View Blog (1)
Also when you have water flowing via gravity, you want as few restrictions of the flow as possible.


Top
 Profile Personal album  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 141 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 10  Next

All times are UTC + 8 hours


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye
[ Time : 0.150s | 18 Queries | GZIP : Off ]