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I can't stand that mentality. Its no wonder so many people are worried about immigrant workers, they might be forced to compete with people with a decent work ethic

Probably liverwurst.... YUM........

nice diversion

I have never tried liverwurst! I think I will buy some ASAP.
And a quick google brings up a few recipes that make it not in anyway processed.
So all the meats stay where they are in that triangle then, since none are actually "processed" (even though you could probably buy cheap processed versions of them.)

Its yummy on crackers Superveg

Thanks faye, funny story just as I wrote that last post my wife had just gone to woolies to get some things so I texted her to get some liverwurst. She came back without it, her excuse "First I thought it was some green vegetable and I spent ages looking for it, then I thought it was something in the butter/fat section"

We have a 3 month old, she's pretty tired

My thoughts here.
The easiest way to see if and what the correlation between vaccines and autism is, and a few other problems with children, is very simple.


Just do a comparison of having a large number of each of children under 4 years old, one group of children being vaccinated and one group being of children not vaccinated.
This has never been done in a true test. Some people want to claim that it has been, but a true comparison has never been done. Any trials that have been done, did not do any proper controls, and were highly misrepresented.


Except that comparison group tests have already been done.
They take a group of people who do not have childhood vaccinations, and there is 90% less autism rates in those groups.

The idea isnt just that vaccines cause autism, there's 2 facts needed to consider.

Fact 1- mercury causes autism.

Fact 2- high levels of mercury in every seasonal flu shot, up to 250 times what is considered toxic for the human body.

The CDC is a good source for this info,contrary to popular belief, its not all just conspiracy theory hype.

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I'd leave it guys. Questioning the orthodox views simply draws in the 'Conspiracy Theory' condemnation. I've been through this on a number of sites. Some subjects cannot be talked about, no matter what evidence there might be. 2nd hand smoking, 9/11 problems, anthropogenic global warming, fluoride and vaccines are all set in stone for most people.

About the best we can do is point out there are contrary views, so at least a few might question the established stories and then bear the Conspiracy Theorist tag proudly.

My work is giving out flu injections today. I have declined the offer, as I am not eldery, frail or of ill health. I get a sniffle once or twice a year. My kids on the other hand are all up to date on their vaccinations. I have read up on the risks, who knows how far either side of the truth that is, but I have seen a baby with hooping cough. I had a case of it myself 20 years ago, not nice, but would never want any of my children to go through that.

Having been a serving member of the Navy, travelling to many hot spots of disiease over the world, I felt I was like a pin cushion some times. So god knows what shit I have in my system. Had a TB shot one year which went off like a cracker. Still got the scar from that! I just used to lie down and let them give me the shots. Had to lie down else I would have fallen. Had a few fights with Medico's on that one, but one concussion, and they believed me and it went on my records. I normally feint when a needle presents itself to my body.

I believe I am aware of the risks, I will keep my kids shots up to date, but you have the choice not too.


If only they could make a vaccine to stop head lice!

As I am in the at risk category, I had diabetes for a few years not so long ago I will get my flu shot in a couple of weeks.

I also have just come to the end of a very bad cold/flu not sure which but it has lasted for four weeks. Nobody in the family has had it so it may have come from the week or so that I worked at a school.

Those pesky things called kids again.

i'm not sure where you got or get your facts, but even faux news has said that vaccinations don't cause autism

the mercury in the shots is thiomerosal and has never been shown to be harmfull, the type linked to nervous system damage is methyl mercury

These are the facts.
1.- There are groups of people who do not have childhood vaccinations, and there is 90% less autism rates in those groups.
2.- Before massive young childhood vaccines, the rates of autism were considerably smaller. (considerably)


-It makes no difference if they put out studies that say mercury does not cause these problems.
-It makes no difference if they put out studies that say aluminum does not cause these problems.
-It makes no difference if they put out studies that say any vaccines ingredients do not cause these problems.
There is no use trying to convince people of this. That is not what they want.


All they want is for in independent (independent) group to oversee and do an official study of comparing a large group children who do not have vaccines to a large group who do.
This will never be done by drug companies, because drug companies know the results will show much less then half as many problems in non vaccinated groups.
So simple. Those who want vaccines are in the group that gets them, and those who don't, the other group.
OR more simply, look at those in society who did not get childhood vaccines, RE: number #1 above.


They are not saying that some vaccines are not useful.
For all those who still believe in large numbers of vaccines, they can inject them in their children.
I do not understand what the dispute is.



Why isn't everyone (even those who want the vaccines) demanding that this be done ?
Apparently, there are a very large number of people who do not want to see this done, because they are afraid that it will show that they have been poisoning their children.

So you insult fox news yet still try to use it as a credible source??? Yea, mainstream media is the way to go, see how far that gets you.

Thimerosal is still 50% mercury by weight.

Google the 1930 thimerosal test originally done that deemed this product safe from the get go. That's how this industry operates. Lies and deceit. Its all about the benjamines.

You think those people who actually work on these vaccines or the people running that show get vaccinated, hell no. You think the Monsanto execs eat there own crops loaded with GMO, guarantee you that's a no.
Just the way it works.

If you choose to believe its safe, to each his own.

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Doc... both points have been covered before....

There is NO proven link between vaccination and autism... despite numerous scientific studies... and the major health bodies have called the campaign the "most damaging medical fraud in history"...

There is NO mercury, even Thermarsol.. in vaccinations... it was phased out in the 1990's....

The anti-vaccination movement continues to perpetuate hysteria based on NONSENSE... without ANY scientific proof to back their claims...

It's an hysterical, uneducated... CON JOB...

Aluminum is also a toxic substance.
But It makes no difference in what has been covered.
It makes no difference what is in the vaccines.


Why won't they do the comparison testing ?
There has not been any true comparison testing done.
They know they can't and won't do.
Surely you must know they won't do.
You wish trust those people, with your heath when they will not do the simple comparison test run by an independent group of people.



I run across people often who claim they have a superior product, and I propose a simple test whereby It will prove if it works. The scammers will not do the simple tests to prove it works.
Why don't you just demand the comparison testing be done before trusting people with your health.




I want to see a simple proof and they will not do it.