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PostPosted: Mar 25th, '13, 09:24 
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Is the game camera just to take pics of wildlife Helomech



It is also used for keeping a eye out for trespassers. Here is an example of a game cam pic from my property.

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PostPosted: Mar 25th, '13, 09:27 
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Its good that you want rechargables to be better, untill you said that it didnt look like it.
I have used rechargables in high power devies with no problems, i dont play with Rc cars, etc anymore though so i cant comment on them.

You do have to look for the highest amp batteries you can get though, simply looking at brand and thinking "hmm thats a good brand" isnt good enough when it comes to rechargables.


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PostPosted: Mar 25th, '13, 09:30 
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Its good that you want rechargables to be better, untill you said that it didnt look like it.
I have used rechargables in high power devies with no problems, i dont play with Rc cars, etc anymore though so i cant comment on them.

You do have to look for the highest amp batteries you can get though, simply looking at brand and thinking "hmm thats a good brand" isnt good enough when it comes to rechargables.


They seem to provide plenty of power, just not over the long term. I love them in my cordless tools, those seem better than the small AA ones.

Anyways sorry for going off topic on the post. Will stop now.


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PostPosted: Mar 25th, '13, 09:48 
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Its not a huge deal, it all kind of ties in together.
It is really good that battery sellers / manufacturers take back batteries, they are such harmful things.
It would be nice if coke and co. were smart enough to see the value in the bottles they sell and took them back, even if for free, to reuse/recycle.
Im a drycleaner, i take back any coat hangers people want to bring in (As well as the plastic wrap if in good enough condition), I sort them in my spare time and any that are no good go in the recycle bin, It takes me maybe half an hour to an hour to sort about $50 worth, so not neccessarily the most profitable way to do it, but it is a free $50 to me, there is no reason for companies to not take back what they give out.


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PostPosted: Mar 25th, '13, 11:18 
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Mr Terry Davis
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North Sydney

Dear Mr Davis - may I call you Terry? This is Australia, after all.

Okay, so I know what you are thinking: "just what I need, a letter from the CEO of Greenpeace". And it is true, just lately Greenpeace and Coca-Cola have not been getting along so well.

Things probably reached rock bottom when Coca-Cola called the cops on me a couple of weeks back. At least, I guess that is what happened, but maybe I am wrong and a dozen police officers simply happened to be strolling past your Sydney offices, entirely coincidentally at the time when we arrived…

In any event, you might be aware that, along with my mates Ian Kiernan from Clean Up Australia and Jeff Angel from the Total Environment Centre, I was coming over to your offices in North Sydney to pay a visit. We did let you know we were dropping by, so there was no surprise. Just popping in, I thought. Quick cup of tea, maybe a nice bicky and a chat, I thought. But oh no. We never even made it as far as the reception, because the police officers, including some top brass, stopped us on the pavement and said that if we took another step towards your offices, we'd be arrested.

I've got no complaint with the police who were exceedingly polite, but let's be honest Terry, it wasn't a great moment in our relationship.

Was Coca-Cola worried? Surely not. Let's recap on some key facts. Coca-Cola is the 212th biggest corporation on the planet, with 2012 profits of US$8,572 million, and extraordinary global reach and brand recognition. Ian, Jeff and I are three average looking blokes who were approaching your offices slowly and peacefully in broad daylight. It is true; we were carrying a few plastic bags of Coke's own empty bottles and cans that had been pulled out of a local creek to return to head office. But hey, come on, surely the company can take a Coke! And it was Coca-Cola's rubbish after all. It is not like we insisted that Coca-Cola go and retrieve its own garbage from the river - a crew of Clean Up Australia and Greenpeace volunteers had done the cleaning up already.

If it was Coca-Cola who called the constabulary, I do wonder whether the marketing department had been properly consulted. After all, it is a pretty big leap going from all the usual stuff - teenagers on beaches, ecstatic crowds at concerts, 'just for the taste of it', yada yada yada - to thinking that calling the cops on Ian Kiernan was a bright idea for Coke's image. I mean, it does seem pretty hard to imagine that calling the cops on a septuagenarian former Australian of the Year really conveys those cherished brand values of fun, freedom and refreshment. Or maybe I am missing something.

But let me cut to the chase. What really puzzles me is the seabirds. What is it with Coca-Cola and the seabirds, Terry?

According to scientists, around two thirds of Australian seabirds are affected by plastic pollution in our oceans, and heck of a lot of this comes from the beverage sector. It's no wonder when 7 billion cans and bottles end up in landfill or are chucked away in our parks, rivers and oceans every year - that's 15,000 a minute! The good news is that it is possible to massively reduce the amount of plastic pollution from the drinks industry. In South Australia and 43 other precincts around the world, there's a scheme in operation known as 'cash for containers' which is proven, achieving over 90 per cent recycling rates in some places. So there is a proven solution out there.

On its website, Coca-Cola says "[w]e recognize… that our planet has scarce resources and we are working to first minimise the packaging we use and then look to find ways to recover and reuse as much as possible". Now I don't want to leap to using an expression like 'empty commitment' and may be it is just my interpretation, but what the Coke website says does seem to me to be just a little at odds with what the company has actually been doing in relation to the 'cash for containers' proposal… like lobbying politicians, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on misleading advertising campaigns, and even suing the government of the Northern Territory to prevent cash for containers being introduced.

The thing is I just can't see why Coca-Cola would want its brand to be associated with dead seabirds. It is not like Coca-Cola has some kind of morbid organisational detestation of seabirds, and it can hardly be essential to Coke's business to clog up the stomach of an albatross with plastic waste. I mean, if Coke really wanted to see dead seabirds, then there are far more efficient ways available for wiping out marine wildlife.

I can sort of imagine some kind of weird fictional parallel dimension in which maximising seabird fatalities was one of Coca-Cola's key business objectives. In this fictional world Coke would find ingenious ways of promoting its orniscidal agenda. The company might announce that something big is coming, for instance, before launching an exciting new customer competition - let's call it Coke-aim! Under the rules of Coke-aim, any punter who handed in six dead seabirds to any participating retailer would get a six pack of Coke in return. Bingo! Pretty soon in this strange world, thirsty Coke drinkers would be taking Coke-aim at our fine feathered friends all over the country, with guns, bows, sticks and stones employed to devastating effect. Seabirds out, Coke-aim in!

In this Coke-aim crazy-world no picnic would feel complete without some promising young fellow bludgeoning half a dozen gulls to oblivion or an enterprising young lass swiftly garroting three brace of petrels, before heading down to the local delicatessen to redeem the carcasses for the cold sweet flavor of the real thing.

Back in the real world though, my assumption is that nobody who works for Coca-Cola does want to see seabirds unnecessarily suffering and dying with stomachs full of plastic waste and I'm guessing your gazillions of customers feel pretty much the same way. So how about taking another look at that cash for containers scheme and helping give Australia's seabirds a decent break? Just think of it as buying the birds a Coke.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this Terry. Hopefully we can sort things out.

Regards

David Ritter, chief executive officer, Greenpeace Australia Pacific
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PostPosted: Apr 12th, '13, 10:00 
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:) you need to read faster.... Though yes, it wasn't highly exciting... :lol:


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I enjoyed the read. Put a smile on my face anyways :D


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Just another chance to turn the press in their favor wasted. Goes to show that they really do not care what we think as long as their products sell.


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PostPosted: Apr 19th, '13, 19:03 
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COCA COLA DEFEATED IN NT RECYCLING FIGHT

Environmentalists today welcomed the support of Premiers and assurances made by the Federal Government to the Northern Territory Chief Minister Adam Giles to pass regulations so that the NT’s Cash for Containers scheme will continue.

“Today’s decision marks a turning point in the battle for a national 10cent deposit/refund scheme because it demonstrates bipartisan political support is possible; rejection of the feeble industry alternative of bins and litter advertising; and last but not least, that once introduced - container deposit schemes are incredibly popular with the community,” said Jeff Angel, National Convenor of the Boomerang Alliance of 27 groups.

On the same day a petition seeking a national container deposit scheme supported by 68,000 people was handed to the office of the NSW Premier.

“The NT Government is to be congratulated for standing up to Coke and defending a scheme that has doubled bottle and can recycling rates in just 12 months. Now that it is free from legal attack, the government, community and the recycling industry can focus on improving its efficiency and effectiveness.”

“Our message to the other states which are considering their own or a national deposit/refund program is – the community wants you to represent them, not Coca Cola. Ever since Coke (temporarily) won their court case, the company has become a political pariah and has been shown to engage in misinformation and bullying tactics. Australians don’t like their governments doing the bidding of such corporations and want real solutions to the 8 billion bottles and cans landfilled or littered every year,” Mr Angel said

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That is good news... Now if we can just mirror your success with gun regulation... Sorry, Helo, I know we'll disagree. So does my son...

What we need is better people control... and I'd be ok with a psych eval for a gun... but I don't know that anyone else would.


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PostPosted: Apr 20th, '13, 04:58 
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arbe wrote:
I'm feeling very guilty right now as I just finished a coke before checking out new posts on the forum only to find this one.

I'm also torn as I don't know what else I can mix with my cheap scotch - I guess for the benefit of the environment I better find a better quality scotch which doesn't need to be mixed with something. :D



Or brew your own :cheers:


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