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Do you have proof otherwise....? You can't buy a Coke vending machine anywhere in Australia on gumtree unless it's over 40 years old.

Well I started scrolling down the facebook page and counted 25 pictures of COKE vending machines and not one privately owned machine, I gave up counting, you must be looking at a different page, or only seeing what you want to see..

There is nowhere on that website where you can buy a machine? You're just making stuff up...

Its not possible that I made anything up, because I haven't made any claims. And since I made no claims, what is there to prove ? You made the following claims. 1. All "branded" (definition required) Coke machines are completely owned by coke and by vandalising these machines ONLY coke is affected 2. All the machines photographed on that Facebook page are likewise completely owned by Coke.

Questioning and requesting proof of a claim, is not in itself a claim. If you are 100% confident your claims are true (and if they are) then many people will be happy that small businesses (like yours )will not be affected by this crusade.

SuperVeg

Coke vending is a service where your the customer can have a machine in your store, business, house or club whatever you like. they do not sell (not that I can see). They put their machines in your place for your customers use.

In any event Coco-cola do have a process in place for printing the refund notice on it products. because any product sold here in SA must have that information printed on it. That also means that they have the required infrastructure in place for the recycling.

It would have been a smart move to comply with the NT legislation, so that it was only having to expand those said service to one more state/territory. The way it is now if it is introduced federally they will have to expand the same said services across the country at the same time.

Yes there are small businesses the run some of the Coke vending machines. They will just get caught up in the affair and who`s fault is that. Not the customer that refuses to buy the product as it is their choice to buy Coke or not. I would suggest that it is Coco-cola who is at fault here.

So every one can make there own choice to buy or not buy Coke and the small vending companies will still be caught up in it all.

All completely fair points Bernhard..... and yeah it's a pity Coke didn't embrace the idea... they could actually have truned it into a positive marketing campaign...

From the Coke website...

Looks very much to me like Coke do NOT seel machines, they pay the retailer for use of space to market their products.

Fits in with what I knew from bar work - branded vending machines come with very specific rules about what can go in there, because for the branded ones, the shop/bar owner doesn't own the machines, the brand does. Putting the competition brand into a branded fridge draws penalties.

Personally I think it could work well, just as it does for trolleys, but the deposit needs to be non-trivial - 5c will not cut it because most people these days will not even stop in the street to pick up 5c. They will for a dollar though...

Totally agree with this

Well actually you did.. This is a classic example of how you like to twist things, I was careful to quote you and respond..

You said
This is incorrect.

You then also said And posted a picture from the coke vending page of some machines. They are not for sale..

Strangely enough a friend told me last night that their flat mate worked for Coke vending, for many years up until recently. Spoke to them this morning and they confirmed that yes, no one can own a coke vending machine here in Australia...!

But that is all beside the point.. I believe that businesses which create lots of pollution through their products should have some responsibility for that pollution. They put the waste problems onto others, whether it's councils having to collect rubbish bins or people having to collect rubbish in the streets.

Businesses should have "product stewardship" to ensure that costs of recycling or disposal of the wastes is covered in the cost of the product, it's unfair to pass on the waste costs to others. Battery suppliers are starting to do this in many countries. In fact I really don't understand how or why people would buy anything other than rechargeable batteries, I only ever buy rechargeable and I imagine that one day most non-rechargeable batteries will pretty much disappear.

Rechargable batteries are horrible in most situations. We tried to use them in many applications, and have not had any good results. (I am talking about the small batteries, like AA, C, D and so on)

Another coke gone. I wonder how many times this thread made someone crave a coke, caused someone to actually get up and go get one.

Lithium batteries will change that.

Been using Lithium for years in remote control helicopter, and they do work good for a little while. But the life on them sucks, so far. The bigger packs, like in drills and things work good, but the small packs and AA, D and so on suck. Hopefully that changes.

If you are using batteries in a remote control helicopter or car and think they should have any sort of "decent" life span (more than 10 minutes), get a petrol powered one..... Even children know battery powered remote control things are a farce, atleast i did.

Why do you have to be condescending?


Been there done that, have many gas RC. Have you seen the electric ones now. I am not talking about the 20 dollar ones from the local store. Seems there is always someone that tries to act like they know all and everyone else is an idiot. Been flying remote control aircraft for over 30 years, and work an fly on real helicopters and and fixed wing aircraft. Since you seem to not know there are many reasons for electric flying aircraft, the main one is that my company gets a bit pissed when you fly a gas powered one inside of a hanger, but the electric ones are just fine. And since you seem to know so little gas powered RC rarely have enough fuel for more than 10 minutes of flight. If you are going to try to make someone look stupid please pick a topic you know something about.

I am sure you can turn this 600 bucks into a pile of trash in seconds.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wt ... LXDACN&P=0

And try to pay attention, I never complained about the amount of time they ran, my complaint is how long the battery pack lasst before they need replaced. And they also suck in game cameras, they go dead in a week when regular batteries last months. I have one plane that has about 15 minutes of flight time, but after 10-12 minutes I am planning my landing. And all my planes are gas powered.

I never tried to make you look stupid, what you said clearly led me to believe you meant "run time", simply because rechargables dont "die" as quick you you are saying, but they do run out of power pretty quick, as any battery in an RC item does.... battery life is usually the runtime, not the amount of cycles.... to the average person.

What is a game camera? a special camera of some sort? You are now talking of how quick they run out? or are you saying that you can destroy a rechargable battery through use and recharging in a week, while a non rechargable still has power after 1 month?
I highly doubt that, you are all over the place.

Oh, really. So when you say and I quote "Even children know battery powered" that is not trying to make someone look stupid. I am not stupid enough to buy that.

Then you say ", atleast i did". that is also condescending.

I am fine with the 10 minute run time, just buy more batteries. But the battery packs rarely last more than 6 months of real use, then the flight times are down so far it is pointless to use them. So they need replaced.

I am giving examples of places they are not good in. High drain devices are much better with non rechargeable batteries. Game cameras are cameras that are put out in the woods and take pics of what ever goes in front of them, hogs, deer, and so on. When I use the AA rechargeable in them they need recharged in a week or so. With regular Duracell they last months before being replaced. I have found they work great in tv remotes, clocks and such, low drain devices.

Does not matter what you doubt, it is fact. I run about 7 game cams and tried rechargables in all of them, and gave up. Tried different brands, but they need charged way to often.

Yes I am talking about how fast they run out of charge in a game camera, but how long the battery packs last in RC's. I am sure you are capable of following more than one topic. No way I would have an electric helicopter without rechargeables it would get way to expensive. So I deal with the run times by buying more batteries. In game cameras I don't want to have to pull 30 batteries each week to put on chargers, that is a pain in the butt. So I use regular batteries there.

Trust me, I want rechargeable batteries to work great. I spend way to much money on batteries.

Is the game camera just to take pics of wildlife Helomech