Backyard Aquaponics
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In my opinion the likely response to any stong argument up until the decision is made would have been something along the lines of "a decsion has not yet been made etc etc". Once a decision has been made then you should have something to get your teeth into and really push the issue.

Just to throw a spanner in the works.. talking to a couple of the hatchery guys in QLD recently...

They tell me that there's a new "paper" circulating.... that basically places the same kind of restrictions on translocation of fish... into, and out of QLD... as has been the case in WA...

i.e... Jade Perch & Barra, for instance... will not be allowed to be shipped out of QLD... without translocation permits... AND health certifications..... (regardless of destination, industry, or numbers)

From what I have gathered in phone conversations with fisheries I am expecting a negative decision for my application. I asked them if there were any grounds for an appeal and was told there isnt so that will mean starting again from scratch.



Thats interesting Rupe and if it eventuates will practically close the door on the current loop hole that exists in WA where other species are being brought in from Qld via the aquarium market. When making inquiries about bringing the Jades into WA the health certificate was going to cost $600 which if enforced for small orders would make it not worthwhile.

"From what I have gathered in phone conversations with fisheries I am expecting a negative decision for my application. I asked them if there were any grounds for an appeal and was told there isnt so that will mean starting again from scratch."

That would be rather unusual, there is usually an appeal process in any decision made by a government officer. If they do reject it ensure they state the relevant part of the act that decision is being made under and detailed reasons for the decision.

+1 Sleepe. you beat me to it.
this is the beginning not the end.

Its also unusual Marc that they would preempt a decision being made, its either been made or it hasn't.

Agree Sleepe. Which may mean that their processes are not up to scratch.
There are still agencies in WA that operate on bluff, where they have been able to get away with so much for so long that their processes are poor. If they say that the FRMA says they can do it i would read the legislation myself to make sure.
The irony is that there is probably someone from DoF reading this thread.

Well if DoF are reading this, one of their stupidest decisions.
They won a pyrrhic victory, were soundly criticised by all and ended up settling Palmer's civil case out of court.

http://www.summarycrime.com/2009/05/fis ... almer.html

Well it will be the end for my application BUT perhaps the beginning of trying to achieve what we want by a different approach.



I have heard from the officers involved that it is most likely not going to get approved. The actual final decision is made from someone higher up the ladder based on all the reports and recommendations from the said officers.



I too work (part time) for a state govt dept where appeals are a common occurrence, this is why I asked the question. As per the norm with fisheries I received 2 different answers to my question but from past experience of dealing with those involved I expect the one who said 'no' to be the more correct.

"Well it will be the end for my application BUT perhaps the beginning of trying to achieve what we want by a different approach".

Troutman

When you get the response you can PM me with it, if you wish. Its not like I don't have a few things to do, but I enjoy (perhaps not an appropriate word) reading legislation,regulations and excuses as to why things should not happen.
I don't have an interest in jade perch at the moment but it seems to me that DoF would be better off controlling reputable stock from a controlled and reputable breeder than the ad-hoc situation we have at the moment.

No worries Sleepe will do.