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Wow that makes sense, and is quite thought provoking

Thanks for sharing it

I have to say it before it begins........ lets not get into a racism debate please.

You only have to listen to the hypocrisy

The locally adapted hardy plants and animals, suited to the soil and climate

All of a sudden under threat from alien invaders and superweeds

It's BS

The world we live In is so thoroughly modified and it's responding as such

The so called devastating introductions of plants and animals here are just myth

Pure myth

I grew up believing the same story
But after studying it in detail I can see the fatal errors
And more and more researchers are daring to publish these heretical corrections

If you look at the cane toad you can see it's a survivor
But you can't blame the toad for disappreanxe of other frogs
This has been happening independently
A good friend of mine took me to high mountain springs where endemic Frogs once lived
And then in the 1980s they just disappeared for no apparent reason
And it happened all over the world

And down on the cane lands sprayed witb poisons and burned year after year
Is it any wonder only this hardiest of amphibians prospers?

Aboriginal people were very irresponsible too

Carry live freshwater turtles from billabong to billabong to seed future food source

(John cann in freshwater tortoises of Australia 1979)

Species can and do have fixed boundaries, by many different means, including physical boundaries where they might never extend from except by either slowly adapting, or by some outside mechanism like humans moving them.

If Mother Nature sees fit to translocate a particular species from one continent, or ecosystem, to another, all good and well, she will probably have, or develop, some checks and balances to curtail that species from having a dominating effect in it's new environment... but us wilfully introducing a species that is known to be invasive elsewhere and has the capability to possibly wipe out local species that have been established on this continent for millions of years... that's just not cricket

Just for reference the plant was elaeagnus triflora, a tasty berry and aboriginal food that gives the nth qld town of millaa millaa it's name. Milay milay berry

There's also some gondwanAn elements like casaurina junghuniana in highland east java and agathis dammara, a kauri pine relative in central java
And java is Asia proper, replete with tigers and dipterocarps

All I'm saying is, don't get too rigid, because nature knows no bounds!

Species do not have boundaries except in the ephemeral present
If you spend any time researching climate and vegetation you will rethink that myth

As for mother nature
If you have religious or mythic views on some guiding entity then that's your lookout

But what the data shows is an oscillating mosaic of temporal distributions according to climate and chance
If mother nature created something then she hasn't finished yet, not by a long shot

Also..
Need I remind anyone?

We are nature
Just as much as any other part of it
Everything humans do is just as much part of nature as anything else

If humans have done it
It's already been done before

You do like an opinionated rant don't you JG.....

24 posts within 24 hours of being a member, not one post that I can find which has anything to do with aquaponics, while upsetting a few members along the way..

This thread was about whether it's irresponsible for people to release non-endemic aquatic species into local waterways in WA. People should NOT do this, it IS irresponsible..

And ILLEGAL....

I certainly started thinking about a ban

I missed this thread ...my bad but it is an interesting subject. As most on here whom know me, I am in the North West.... ( Sshhh ) about to restart the AP System and stock again with Barra ( again Sshhhh )

It has come up a few times in conversation with the locals about putting a few thousand Barra into local ponds and river ways. Yes it is an entertaining idea, but would be very irresponsable of us to go beyond the talk.

We do get Barra here naturally, BUT if we where to go ahead and stock the natural system at will, the impact would possibly be huge !!!

Thoughtless acts like this would have a huge impact on our water ways.

Well hey if you want to ban people for having an opinion
Or for arguing serious issues
With supporting information
Then it's your style ?

I didn't start the personal insults

You obviously haven't looked very hard at my contributions

Check other sections for my informative posts on tropical vegetables
On my intended setup
On asking for sources in Brisbane for citrus
On asking about member use of leucaena

I argue that these accusations against me are false

Have I not contributed information to this forum that wasn't here before?

If my intention was to troll do you think I'd put this effort in?
I know first hand the aquacultureindustry in Wa
I have a diploma in Aquaculture
Worked on fish farms there
I've got a degree in molecular biology and in biomedical science
I've got post graduate studies in tropical ecology and conservation
Ive professional relations and friends colleagues in herpetology, wildlife management and botany
I take these issues very seriously

I've also not advocated any release
I'm only arguing over the mindset behind the vitriolic response
Prove me wrong

If you don't feed trolls they either fit in and join the community or go away and get their fix from somewhere else.