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LOL, yep a coalition of the willing?


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The metric units are m^2 K / W, the imperial (british?) units are ft^2 degF hour/btu. I believe the metric units are technically called something like RSI (or carpal tunnel, not sure), but everyone calls them 'R' here.


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Well we invented the car, telephone, airplane, etc., etc. but we manged to do it without metric. :lol: :P


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Were pretty good at killing off indiginous peoples as well. This Land was your Land, This Land is our Land.... hey those arn't the words.


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yeah remember the old "hippie" adage...

What's yours is mine... and what's mine is mine

The more things change the more they stay the same


PS DB... telephone maybe....
car, plane??? we could have an arguement there


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Telephone: nope (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone), in dispute.
Car was invented by a bunch of Europeans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car)
Aeroplane was invented by an englishman, first practical flight was by a frenchman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroplane#History)
Lightbulb was invented by swan (an englishman)

I'll let you have War on Drugs, War on Terror, nuclear bomb, submarine, machine gun and I'll be generous and say you can have the first man on the moon (the soviets got all the other interesting milestones in space anyway). Regarding car, yes, the dehumanisation of craftsmanship and first MI-complex was invented by an american. See also sweatshop, outsourcing, fiat money and unilateral trade agreements.


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The labor movement started in the US too. I hadn't known that May Day started in Chicago until recently - had assumed it started with the Soviets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_Riot

To say that the Wright Brothers didn't complete the first "sustained, controlled and powered heavier-than-air flight" (from the article) is silly. Are you talking about Santos-Dumont in '06?

And I thought the Germans invented/perfected the machine gun for WWI.

Regarding the light bulb, Edison may not have invented it but he sure as hell improved it (13 hours for the British guy in 1878, 40 hours for Edison a year later, then 1200 hours a year later).

Submarines are not an American invention (http://www.submarine-history.com/NOVAone.htm), maybe you mean the nuclear submarine?


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guys, take it to the AU/US general banter thread if you have to


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To say that the Wright Brothers didn't complete the first "sustained, controlled and powered heavier-than-air flight" (from the article) is silly.


Sorry have to disagree with you there also... Wright Brothers flight was the first "recorded" documented flight granted...

But a New Zealander Richard Pearse (March 1903) and Karl Jatho (August 1903) flew before them... they just didn't document the occasion.


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A related letter appeared in Newsweek (Nov 24, 2003, p 18; powered flights long before the Wright brothers):

The first powered, controlled, sustained flight took place 50 years before the Wright brothers, in 1852 (Henri Giffard flew 15 miles with a steam engine mounted on a dirigible).

He went nearly 100 times as far as the Wright brothers did. The Zeppelins were powered as well, of course, but the first powered heavier-than-air flight took place in 1890 (Clement Ader, steam engine on bat-winged monoplane, 60 yards).

The Wrights' 1903 flight (300 yards) was the first photographed heavier-than-air flight. [Correction: not quite true; there exist photos of Lilienthal's non-powered heavier-than-air flights in the 1890s; error inserted by Newsweek editors.]

After the advent of relatively light combustion engines (such as Benz, Otto, Diesel), other pioneers pursued similar approaches, but no photographs were taken by Richard Pearse (New Zealand, March 1903) and Karl Jatho (August 1903).

Finally, the Wrights needed headwinds or catapults to start their planes, so they were not fully self-powered. But Brazil's Santos-Dumont was (1906, first official airplane flight).


Sorry but definately another "myth busted"

Added edit ... Sorry DB and Monya... so busy typing didn't see your admonishment... off to the AU/US thread then


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I'm pretty sure that the first machine gun was the gattling gun (18xx, some US internal conflict?).

I love the way that some americans always find a justification for why the american 'inventor' was the significant one. "Oh, well sure he didn't actually invent it, but he increased the lifespan; sure, it wasn't the first powered flight, or fixed wing air craft, but it was the first recorded on film..." ;) Let's rewrite history!


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LOL, This thread has been unofficialy Hijacked, Hugs, Doug ya should of never got naked in that hot tub.


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Steve made a quick (and I hope light hearted) slam of America always being last. I responded with a most definitely light hearted point that America does pretty well at creativity and invention.

The comments after that got mean spirited and even America bashing. I am offended.

I will take it no further, but I have a less warm feeling about the forum. :x :shock:


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