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Yet no-one will wee in their aquaponics tanks? hypocrisy?


Says who. I am seriously considering doing just this. Eat foods high in the things my system are short in (bananas for potassium for example) and then piss in the fish tank.

Who is coming to my place to eat the first fish with me :D


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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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GD-the earth as a closed loop-- we would not have rubbish tips, as every thing would be of value, consumerism would disappear and the jobs too as we would all be working in our gardens.
the food miles would reduce to minimal.
We'd find time to do everything.
and might even meet our neighbours!!!
I am for a closed loop which is what I have been trying to achieve since way back.
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Now you guys are getting too radical.... the men in black with dark glasses will be watching you little "pinko" subversives....

fancy being anti-consumerism, that's anti-capatalist...

by definition that's anti-social.... subversive

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C1,

I hear what you are saying, but a global scope is really hard to make a differenceon, unless we all start on a local scale.

Keeping in mind that people do what people do (and in the 21st century that means spraying biocides on the earth, making 1,000,000 lbs of garbage per person, %98 of which is byproducts of making the sort of disposable junk you see at Walmart, dumping toxic garbage, etc), a more local closed loop is pretty attractive! Control your water and the inputs into the AP system and you know exactly what you are eating.

Withthe cyber age, ad the shrinking of our planet, you are my neighbor.

Nice to meet you!

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Think globally. Act locally.


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Hahahahaha, Janet! Exactly!


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and then piss in the fish tank.

Who is coming to my place to eat the first fish with me :D[/quote]

I`ll be there (hey the fish already piss/poo in there)and most of the fish you get at shops have questionable habitats,see Vietnamese fish farming(google it) if you dont believe me :D


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Now you guys are getting too radical.... the men in black with dark glasses will be watching you little "pinko" subversives....

fancy being anti-consumerism, that's anti-capatalist...

by definition that's anti-social.... subversive

Pssssssst... I'm with you


You forgot "un-australian" LOL


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You could sh*t in your AP system if you had catfish, they eat it right up! Yumm! Of course, thats a bit of a closed loop....


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JP & C having to teach the younger crew after their parents have been ultra consumers for decades... what a nightmere.
Act globally think locally is a better coin of phrase as the emphasis is on thinking locally and the rest will take care of it's self as we are all local to ourselves.
We are the numbers not the goverment we do have the power!!!
But it starts at home,
and how greedy are we?


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Hi,

In rural China (and other parts of Asia), farmers erect an outhouse over their fish ponds, for the purpose of fertilising the ponds and feeding fish like Grass Carp and Basa. Passers by are encouraged to use these outhouses, too.

Personally, I won't be doing this. At about 700 litres, that would make my system a little too closed for my taste (excuse the pun).

For the record (now steady yourself EB), yesterday I commissioned a small flood and drain gravel/expanded clay bed of about a square metre in area. It utilises a small submersible pump and timer.

I also have a variety of trays and tubs which, since yesterday, contain coco peat. This system is non-recirculating.

For my money, Steve summed it up nicely when he said.....

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agreed


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hope you're not planning on planting much more than lettuce in the f&D garry, any plant with a substantial stem will tilt over as the expanded clay is far too light. I mentioned this in my system thread whcih is why i moved over to gravel.


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Hi Steve,

Your concern about expanded clay aggregate is a reasonable one.....so I weighed it down with about 75mm of 10mm drainage gravel.

I've had the system operating for about 24 hours now and this seems to have resolved the floating clay ball problem.

I've planted it out to silver beet initially. The chooks and I go through large quantities of the stuff.

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You can always stake the plants up GD... If the root system is strong enough you will be OK. Trial and Error...


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