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You know I really hate all this anti war crap. It fails to see the issue objectively. I am not fond of the other war mongering side either. They justify their wars with false pretenses and false flags and call it justice. Just call it like it is, defending and expanding the empire, nothing wrong with that.

I was often told as a child all the horrible things humans do, like make war, that are unnatural, terrible things. Other animals don't behave this way. Only humans. Then when I was about 13 I was hiking through a forest while in the boy scouts. I saw HUGE amounts of ants traveling across the ground. Imagine an ant trail 6 feet wide and hundreds of feet long. I thought it must be some kind of mass migration. I found 4 of these trails. Two black ants, two red ants trails. It was only when I traced the black ants back did I realize what was happening. I found two colonies of black ants being attacked by a red ant army of massive size. There was a large battle taking place in front of the colony. The defenders were protecting the colony while all the other black ants escaped out the back. The battle lasted almost an entire week before both black ant colonies were taken over by the red ants.

Making war is natural and man is just another animal. I often think of that when I hear "man-made" or unnatural. Man is natural and everything we do, create is nature. Empires are built through blood and violence, it's the way of nature. To abhor war is to abhor ants, to abhor nature itself.

Which is absolutely terrible, and as a human with a conscience and a caring heart, I'm sickened.

But how does that have anything to do with chastising the US for some of the country's citizens celebrating on the news of the death of Osama Bin Laden? Additionally, the Iraq war and the search for OBL are really two quite different things. The man was a murderer of ALL PEOPLE WHO DISAGREED WITH HIS IDEOLOGY, and frequently people who even agreed with him, because his own people were considered acceptable "casualties of war" to him as well. Americans, Australians, Saudis, Israelis, Brits, Iraqis, Afghans and on and on.... He wasn't really all that selective, as long as people were dying. He was a bad man. We were told the bad man was killed. Some people applauded (a very, very small number of people too). Sorry you don't feel they should have, but perhaps you might just find it possible to understand "why" they did.... Perhaps if the Rialto Towers, Q1, Eureka Tower or Chifley Tower had been destroyed, and thousands and thousands of the occupants inside, as well as firefighters and police who bravely entered the burning buildings to try and save them were all killed, you might feel some sort of understanding as to why a few of the citizens might celebrate when the man responsible for organizing and leading the group who did it, was dead. These people weren't celebrating the killing of Iraqi civilians, and it's completely offensive if you are in any way trying to suggest they were.

I did type out quite a long response for this thread but then decided to delete it. Different points of view are exactly that and there aint no sense in trying to change anyone elses...

Probably a good idea, and something I should have done too.

Doesn't everyone just love politics??

Ummmm no

this vid is a pretty cool look at the whole OBL thing

Great vid... LOL I love the kid who when asked what she would do as president to stop terrorism said "I'd buy a yellow canoe. Yellow is my favorite color and I like canoes."

Best answer yet.

Nah, we people of the USA (United Systems of Aquaponics) would never be so ignorant so as to tar all Americans with the same brush based on the barbaric actions of so few.

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