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PostPosted: Sep 22nd, '10, 10:16 
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Saul Griffith? Yeah I had never heard of the guy either, but after hearing him speak briefly the other day on tv I went looking at some of the work he's done and is doing. Very interesting stuff.. He started the Instructables website, http://www.instructables.com

He is described as such on the TED site:

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Innovator and inventor Saul Griffith has a uniquely open approach to problem solving. Whether he's devising a way to slash the cost of prescription eyeglasses or teaching science through cartoons, Griffith makes things and then shares his ideas with the world.

A proponent of open-source information, he established Instructables , an open website showing how to make an array of incredible objects. He is the co-founder of numerous companies including Squid Labs, Low Cost Eyeglasses, Potenco and Makani Power, where he is President and Chief Scientist. His companies have invented a myriad of new devices and materials, such as a "smart" rope that senses its load, or a machine for making low-cost eyeglass lenses through a process inspired by a water droplet. He is a columnist at Make magazine and co-writes How Toons! He's fascinated with materials that assemble themselves, and with taking advantage of those properties to make things quickly and cheaply.


Anyway, this was the info that I found very interesting the other day about our energy usage and CO2 production, very interesting figures:

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Engineer Griffith said he was going to make the connection between personal actions and global climate change. To do that he’s been analyzing his own life in extreme detail to figure out exactly how much energy he uses and what changes might reduce the load. In 2007, when he started, he was consuming about 18,000 watts, like most Americans.

The energy budget of the average person in the world is about 2,200 watts. Some 90 percent of the carbon dioxide overload in the atmosphere was put there by the US, USSR (of old), China, Germany, Japan, and Britain. The rich countries have the most work to do.

What would it take to level off the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at 450 parts per million (ppm)? That level supposedly would keep global warming just barely manageable at an increase of 2 degrees Celsius. There still would be massive loss of species, 100 million climate refugees, and other major stresses. The carbon dioxide level right now is 385 ppm, rising fast. Before industrialization it was 296 ppm. America’s leading climatologist, James Hanson, says we must lower the carbon dioxide level to 350 ppm if we want to keep the world we evolved in.

The world currently runs on about 16 terawatts (trillion watts) of energy, most of it burning fossil fuels. To level off at 450 ppm of carbon dioxide, we will have to reduce the fossil fuel burning to 3 terawatts and produce all the rest with renewable energy, and we have to do it in 25 years or it’s too late. Currently about half a terrawatt comes from clean hydropower and one terrawatt from clean nuclear. That leaves 11.5 terawatts to generate from new clean sources.

That would mean the following. (Here I’m drawing on notes and extrapolations I’ve written up previously from discussion with Griffith):

“Two terawatts of photovoltaic would require installing 100 square meters of 15-percent-efficient solar cells every second, second after second, for the next 25 years. (That’s about 1,200 square miles of solar cells a year, times 25 equals 30,000 square miles of photovoltaic cells.) Two terawatts of solar thermal? If it’s 30 percent efficient all told, we’ll need 50 square meters of highly reflective mirrors every second. (Some 600 square miles a year, times 25.) Half a terawatt of biofuels? Something like one Olympic swimming pools of genetically engineered algae, installed every second. (About 15,250 square miles a year, times 25.) Two terawatts of wind? That’s a 300-foot-diameter wind turbine every 5 minutes. (Install 105,000 turbines a year in good wind locations, times 25.) Two terawatts of geothermal? Build 3 100-megawatt steam turbines every day-1,095 a year, times 25. Three terawatts of new nuclear? That’s a 3-reactor, 3-gigawatt plant every week-52 a year, times 25.”

In other words, the land area dedicated to renewable energy (”Renewistan”) would occupy a space about the size of Australia to keep the carbon dioxide level at 450 ppm. To get to Hanson’s goal of 350 ppm of carbon dioxide, fossil fuel burning would have to be cut to ZERO, which means another 3 terawatts would have to come from renewables, expanding the size of Renewistan further by 26 percent.

Meanwhile for individuals, to stay at the world’s energy budget at 16 terawatts, while many of the poorest in the world might raise their standard of living to 2,200 watts, everyone now above that level would have to drop down to it. Griffith determined that most of his energy use was coming from air travel, car travel, and the embodied energy of his stuff, along with his diet. Now he drives the speed limit (and he has passed no one in six months), seldom flies, eats meat only once a week, bikes a lot, and buys almost nothing. He’s healthier, eats better, has more time with his family, and the stuff he has he cherishes.

Can the world actually build Renewistan? Griffeth said it’s not like the Manhattan Project, it’s like the whole of World War II, only with all the antagonists on the same side this time. It’s damn near impossible, but it is necessary. And the world has to decide to do it.

Griffith’s audience was strangely exhilerated by the prospect.

-- by Stewart Brand




Interesting talk he did on TED

http://www.ted.com/talks/saul_griffith_ ... tions.html


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PostPosted: Sep 22nd, '10, 15:55 
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bleh, it logged me out and my post is gone.

Suffice it to say it wasn't positive about 'renewistan', though it was highly intrigued by the statistics provided.

The moral was that we should each do our own part in being a little bit greener every day.


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Sheesh Joel,
get with it,it's not called "Climate Change" anymore...

see here
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/09/19/a ... next-name/

my personal favorite is "irritable climate syndrome"

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I am all for everyone doing there bit but still unsure on the whole climate change thing as I don't think I have read enough to be truely informed. Having said that though I found this email I received yesterday to be an interesting take on the whole thing, I have not checked the figures so can not vouch for them.

"This makes interesting reading.....

Professor Ian Plimer could not have said it better. If you've read his book, you will agree, this is a good summary.
Australians showed sense in resiting the government pressure to agree to a carbon tax before the Copenhagen Conference - which seems years ago now.........

Are you sitting down?

Okay, here's the bombshell. The current volcanic eruption going on in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.
Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.

I know, I know.... (group hug)...it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of Bali, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your $1 light bulbs with $10 light bulbs ....well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.

The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud any one time - EVERY DAY.

Oh, I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emiitted in all our time here on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year - think about it.

Of course I shouldn't spoil this touchy-feely tree-hugging moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keep happening, despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.

I'm so sorry. And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.

Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you on the basis of the bogus “human-caused” climate change scenario.

Hey, isn’t it interesting how they don’t mention “Global Warming” any more, but just “Climate Change” - you know why? It’s because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming b***s**t artists got caught with their pants down.

And just keep in mind that if that same government is re-elected, you will have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you, that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won’t stop any volcanoes from erupting, that’s for sure.

But hey, grab a Coke, give the world a hug and have a nice day!

PS: I wonder if Iceland is buying carbon offsets?"


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PostPosted: Sep 22nd, '10, 22:31 
Yep the good old professor has been rattling on for years... even attributing the undersea artic volcanos for causing the polar ice melts....

In every case he has been universally debunked...

While an author of six books, a teaching geologist at Adelaide University as well as pragmatic director of a Broken Hill mining company...

From Wiki...

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He is a director of three Australian mining companies: Ivanhoe,[4] CBH Resources[4] and Kefi Minerals.[5] In 2008 and 2009, according to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over AU$400,000 from these interests, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars


And the aviation industry emits more CO2 per day... than the Icelandic volcano did each day...

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2 ... r-volcano/

Climate change data is concerned with the rapid increase of CO2 in the atmosphere ... and a definitive correlation with mankind, population, industrial discharges, deforestation etc...

And the data takes into account "background" historical emmissions such as volcanic eruptions...

And the world has NOT cooled... that bullocks has been debunked over, and over again...


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Whether or not you accept us as the cause of it, the climate HAS changed! and it's continuing to do so at an astounding rate. I'm witness to it, those who have been around longer than me can vouch for it too.

Global warming doesn't just mean hotter summers but also colder winters.

Regards the volcanoes, the pre industrial age air trapped in ice bergs is less than half in the carbon content of current air, and there has been a lot more volcanic activity before then than since, so we are definitely having an effect on the environment. In addition to producing carbon dioxide we also cut down vegetation which gets rid of it, further exacerbating the problem. More vegetation is undoubtedly lost to humans than to volcanoes so we're disrupting the balance right there whether or not you take our emissions into account in the first place.

More on this later.


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Yeah if you type the first line into google there are a lot of references to it, I think that little email has been proliferated all over the internet.

According to factcheck.org website:

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Q: Did carbon dioxide emissions from the volcanic eruption in Iceland negate five years’ worth of effort to control CO2?

A: Not even close. Carbon dioxide emissions from the volcano were small relative to human activity, and partially offset by the shutdown of European air travel.


According to the Washington Post:
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“The amount of carbon dioxide that volcanoes emit is extremely small compared to recent emissions from human activities. This graphic shows that daily emissions of carbon dioxide from European air travel dwarf the estimated emissions of the same gas from the volcano each day”.


Or according to the http://www.skepticalscience.com website :

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It's a little like the hummer Vs Prius one where a report was flowing around saying that a hummer was more environmentally friendly than a Prius, it's been debunked by a few different groups with well referenced reports.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity ... _prius.pdf


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There is only one way to combat C02 emmisions - Reduce the worlds population. Government policies such as one child per couple will acheive this, and if we don't, it will happen naturally in the long term, just a lot more catastrophic. Population growth is un-sustainable, but is needed to support our enriched way of life.


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Vaguely caught something the other day about dumping urea into the ocean and stimulating algal growth which will consume CO2
Cant remember what it was on??? but it was a short term fix to buy some time.

Long term its less population ,and less consumer demand for goods and services.

Our only real hope is if oil runs out or becomes too expensive.That will drive invention or adaptation.The future without affordable oil isn't too far away,all we need is to get out of the GFC and then demand for oil will soar and so will the price and the next GFC will come.
There is quite an interesting movement of people taking action in their communities to start developing structures that will allow their town to be able to survive and thrive when the inevitable happens.
http://www.transitiontowns.org/
We are in the process of setting up Organic Community gardens(that will also supply food for the poor) and a permaculture education centre,food market,seed savers and plant sales and exchange and Men's Shed,hopefully become a Transition Town.


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Burnsy wrote:
Okay, here's the bombshell. The current volcanic eruption going on in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.


Funnily, i heard that it had only thrown up into the air a percentage of the carbon emissions that all the airplanes that were grounded would have been emitting, and that it essentially was BETTER for the planet than all those planes.


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There is only one way to combat C02 emmisions - Reduce the worlds population. Government policies such as one child per couple will acheive this, and if we don't, it will happen naturally in the long term, just a lot more catastrophic. Population growth is un-sustainable, but is needed to support our enriched way of life.


Couldn't agree more


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PostPosted: Sep 29th, '10, 17:58 
:shock: ... you mean there's a relationship between humans and CO2 emmissions...

Tony...... Tony.... they're peddling that "crap" again... :D


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