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 Post subject: Freshwater eels???
PostPosted: Jul 4th, '10, 20:21 
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Anyone ever toyed. With freshwater eels just found some photos of me catching them as a kid.... Freaky looking things


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PostPosted: Jul 4th, '10, 20:51 
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If you do a search Jamie, I think it's come up before. I have a fragmented memory about the migration aspect being a problem.


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I have toyed with the idea but put it in the too hard basket.I saw some in the Aukland Zoo, they were about two metres long and then I tried some eel cutlets a few days later and was impressed.I figured that you would get a lot of cutlets out of one that long and the fact that people think of them as being more like a snake would mean less chance of them being stolen.They catch large numbers around Awanui in New Zealand and send them to Japan but as the kiwis are battling to get fish for ap I wonder why they don't use eels,perhaps they lose them in the red tape.You would have to catch them wild somewhere and that would cause its own problems.I understand that they come up a streem at Margret River,I haven't given up the idea yet ,just put it in the too hard basket.


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PostPosted: Jul 5th, '10, 01:01 
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Here is what I found on the Florida Fish and Wildlife conservation web site.
http://myfwc.com/WILDLIFEHABITATS/Freshwaterfish_AmericanEel.htm

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American Eel
(Anguilla rostrata

Common name - American Eel (pencil eel, yellow eel, black eel, silver eel, Boston eel, Atlantic eel or common eel)

Description - The body is extremely elongated (snakelike), with a very long dorsal fin that is confluent with the anal fin. Pelvic fins are absent and tiny scales are embedded in the skin giving eels a smooth feel. The adult color is a yellow-brown with pale underbelly

Subspecies - It is a distinct species with no known subspecies. Similar species exist around Japan, Australia and Europe.

Range - American eels are found in waters with coastal access along the Atlantic seaboard of the US.

Habitat - Eels are primarily riverine but access ponds and lakes. They orient to structure and flow.

Spawning Habits - Spawning is still not well understood but fascinating. The adults migrate to the ocean during autumn. During the long trek the fish metamorphose into a "silver eel" stage lose their vision and stop eating. Meanwhile, the gonads expand dramatically. The fish head to a location near the Sargasso Sea where they spawn en masse and apparently die. The eggs hatch into leaf-shaped floating leptocephalus larvae that drift with the currents. When they come within range of a freshwater river, the leptocephalus metamorphoses again into a tiny semi-transparent "glass eel" that buries itself in the sand. The glass eel that changes again into a pigmented pencil eel and continues its migration upstream to find a habitat to mature and await it's time to go spawn. This process of spawning in the ocean and maturing inland is termed catadromy (the fish are catadromous).

Feeding habits - Brown eels are predators that feed on insects, crustaceans, mollusks and some fish. Although often associated with decaying food, they prefer live food.

Age and Growth - American eels are known to live as long as 43 years, but generally migrate to spawn and die long before then.

Sporting Qualities - Not generally considered to be a sport fish in this country. They can be caught on hook and line and are taken commercially.

Eating Qualities - This is a gourmet fish in the Asian markets and is often used in Sushi. It tends to be bony by American standards but is good smoked.

State and World Records - The largest on record is an approximately 60-inch long male weighing about 16 pounds.


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Being unable to breed them in captivity is a major set back I guess as every eel must be caught in the wild.. Smoked eel is beautiful.


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PostPosted: Jul 5th, '10, 12:04 
Charles Mitchell at Raglan (NZ) has successfully bred and raised "whitebait"... which are the "elvers"... juvenille form of eels...


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My Mate GWH is a ex kiwi, reckons there great but don't know about keeping them in tank, suppose they would be ok, yet to kill any freshwater fish yet, well I have but not by having he conditions right


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From my early experience with "farmed" eels in dams in the Hawkesbury Valley, NSW:

Eels are far better escape artists than Yabbies!
Ravenous eaters when hungry (which is most of the time!) Have seen them devour a swimming Black snake, just minding his own business crossing the Dam overflow!
Will clean out any fish within reach.
Have seen them in various "arty" AP installations, obviously only for a short term.

Mongrel things to skin, handle and they bite back!!
Keep 'em at your peril, in a domestic suituation, I know I won't!!!

Cheers IanK


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hahahaha they sound like way too much fun!!!!

ended up finding a doco on their spawning habbits and how they dam hop over land etc.... Very Interesting....

would be awesome to have one or two in a nice 6ft tank Embedded in my wall (this is a plan when iv got my own place) Creepy looking buggers, enough to freak my MIL out i'd pay millions for that!!!!

The Aquarium shop in bendigo had them i think pricy tho


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PostPosted: Jul 6th, '10, 09:11 
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anybody know where you can get cheap elvers?

Also... the Melb aquarium had issues with them jumping and slithering down the escalators...
They fixed it by seasonally salting the tanks to trick the eels so they didn't thin kthey needed to migrate to salty water to spawn.


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I had three eels in a 4x2x2 glass tank when I was a teenager. I caught them in the river, and just decided to throw them in the tank. almost impossible to keep in the tank, and pretty scary when you wake up in the night and its on the floor.

Ian, I never found them that hard to skin. nothing that pliers and a vice couldn't fix anyway. If your smoking them, you dont even need to skin em.


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