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PostPosted: Mar 13th, '10, 10:16 
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The cows were just a product of selective breeding. The fish are transgenetic. Most transgenetic animals end up mules. And since the're are not, we should fear them. There is no telling what traits could show up later. A triploid version of this wouldn't be bad as a sterel mule.


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 04:33 
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This is a crap article.

The writer either doesnt know squat about fish and cattle or someone was feeding a line to see what kind of a reaction they would get. Belongs in national Enquirer.

The fish pictured looks like anyone of the salmonids after spawning and just before dying, compare to Alaskan salmon pic of fish after spawning runs.

If ANY strain of any species was developed in the US having 'double muscling' I'd have heard of it on the F1. None such has been produced.

Humpbacks and twisted jaws are a fish breathing its last after its last spawning.

There has been ONE strain of Pacific Salmon that has been selected for growth and has remarkable growth. In Washington State there is a govt owned and operated salmon hatchery in the middle of a city at the head of a natural salmon run, breeders have been taken from there for over 20 years, stripped and eggs and milt mixed and moults grown out and biggest ones selected to release to go back to sea and return at 4-5 years of age to spawn, the size has grown each generation, impressively.

google 'super salmon of Washington', its a federal hatchery and well documented and written up often. I think there is also a book in print all about this project. Super Salmon?? 'Seattles Super Salmon '?? I dont remember.

The RI story is a bogus Enquirer piece of garbage.


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 04:39 
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I thought of something on this after posting the last, there is an ocean run strain of Atlantic Salmon that comes upsteams to spawn, also a trout, both look just like this after spawning and before dying, not all of the trout do die, but can return, this doesnt look like any species of trout I know.

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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 06:55 
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YAY I want one !


Nah, I'm waiting for a smaller version of the "Shark Mounted Ray-gun" for supervillians that this bloke reported on a few months back, once they get over heat exchange problems. Or maybe one of the little robot helicopters that can track drug smugglers across the carribean, or............................ :geek:


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 07:47 
Sounds like it might be time to ressurect my alfoil hat franchise... :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 08:02 
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Water is simply 2 parts Hydrogen and 1 part oxygen, yet the properties of water are still not fully understood!
Playing with genetics which is far more complex is a disaster in the making!
This is wrong!


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 08:11 
Ethics are a mute point... when there's a "buck" to be made... it merely requires a nod from the government... or a change of government... :wink:


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friggin ugly :? be a bastard to fillet lol


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Folks, thats an Ocean Run Atlantic Salmon at the end of its life, fillets exactly the same as tens of millions of others. I reread it and looked closely at the fish, just an adult Atlantic Salmon after a trip up into fresh water to spawn, NOT a lab critter, totally natural.

Not a bit of GE in this fish, just the exact same that has gone on regularly for millions of years.

Dont fall for the National Enquirer style article.

If you do I have an incredible deal for you on aluminum foil hat receivers for the good cosmic rays.

BTW, 'we' have been 'playing' with genetics since the first cave wolf came to associate with a human family.


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '10, 22:23 
Yaacov Levi wrote:

Dont fall for the National Enquirer style article.

If you do I have an incredible deal for you on aluminum foil hat receivers for the good cosmic rays.



Oi.... I own that franchise... :laughing3:


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Looks like you got a market !!


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Genetically modified foods are going to be the death of us all, whether meat or fruits/veges.

Several important reasons... First, we have no long-term research on what the altered genetics will do to our bodies... Hormones in foods are enough to create problems.

Second, and of significantly greater importance right NOW, is that most genetic modifications are patented and traceable. Licensing fees and/or royalties have to be paid to the owning company (Monsanto as a major offender) and HUGE fines can be levied if you are found in illegal ownership of the modified stock... The problem is that with corn, for example, you can't control cross pollination from the genetically modified stock in your neighbor's field. The result is that your corn can be modified and then you owe royalties or fines. With this trout, for example, if one escapes to the wild and 'pollinates' a few other trout, the mutations are traceable and royalties could be owed for simply fishing and eating from wild streams...

Scary indeed.

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The way the legal liability is set up is absurd. If the neighbor's corn pollinates yours and pollutes it with Genemod genes you ought to be able to sue him, and perhaps the maker of the genemod seedstock. Not the other way around.


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That poor fish looks so revolting. I would never put something like that near my family, tanks - or even my cat.


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Babylon wrote:
countryboy wrote:
Genetically modified foods are going to be the death of us all, whether meat or fruits/veges.

Several important reasons... First, we have no long-term research on what the altered genetics will do to our bodies... Hormones in foods are enough to create problems.

Second, and of significantly greater importance right NOW, is that most genetic modifications are patented and traceable. Licensing fees and/or royalties have to be paid to the owning company (Monsanto as a major offender) and HUGE fines can be levied if you are found in illegal ownership of the modified stock... The problem is that with corn, for example, you can't control cross pollination from the genetically modified stock in your neighbor's field. The result is that your corn can be modified and then you owe royalties or fines. With this trout, for example, if one escapes to the wild and 'pollinates' a few other trout, the mutations are traceable and royalties could be owed for simply fishing and eating from wild streams...

Scary indeed.

CB



The way the legal liability is set up is absurd. If the neighbor's corn pollinates yours and pollutes it with Genemod genes you ought to be able to sue him, and perhaps the maker of the genemod seedstock. Not the other way around.


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PostPosted: Oct 14th, '10, 20:41 
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Wow

3rd time lucky attempting to post .

Yeah WA govt bent over to massive global companies. I agree it is absurd that a farmer can be sued for having a crop that invades his property.

I am not wanting to be around for th next generation to try and sort this crap out.


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