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PostPosted: Oct 26th, '09, 18:37 
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This morning I found a floater in the tank, probably couldn’t handle the constant temp over the last couple of days. Didn’t know if he had been sitting there all night so decided to ditch that one.

But anyway I did decide that I had better start having a feed before the rest started to go so this afternoon I fished one out. I must say that it wasn’t the most pleasant of chores, my poor baby the hurt look in his eye's as I wacked him on the head :cry:

Think it was one of the smaller ones, 280mm, 380gm. Cooked it in the oven with some onion, lemon and white wine. Was absolutely delicious.
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PostPosted: Oct 26th, '09, 19:12 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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:( :o :D :cheers: :flower:
Good on you 8)


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PostPosted: Oct 26th, '09, 21:29 
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That fish has got that"OMG, I cant believe he did that" look on his face. I think I would have to cut my fishies heads off straight away so I dont see their face. Bet it tasted great!!!


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Looks great - how long is your hand? :lol:


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gemmell wrote:
Looks great - how long is your hand? :lol:

Wifes hand. Fish was 280mm long


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Hey, since we're on the topic of eating trout, here is an email I got from a trout conissour at work:
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Your fish would butterfly. They must have some meat on them. Plonk them
down on their backs and hold them up vertically. Use a good thin bladed
reasonably sharp knife. Butterflying them lets more water out and
exposes more flesh to the smoke. Win/win.

Sawdust - don't buy it! $8 for a little plastic bag of it! Humbug! Any
hardwood sawdust will do. Find a sawmill that cuts hardwood and they'll
let you fill a semi-trailer for nix. I have bags it, if you want some no
probs. Fresh is best but older dust still ok. People often have
preferences like 'Mountain Ash is the best', but they're all good -
river red gum, iron bark, red & yellow box etc etc. I'll often spice it
up with herbs that I grow eg, lemon balm, oregano. Oregano smoke smells
like wacky backy so you can imagine what my neighbourhood is thinking
(but unfortunately the cops haven't 'busted' me yet...it would be fun).

The smoker is a warm smoker. Best results are when it's done slowly with
the heat right down so more smoke penetration - about 9 hours. You have
to be there the whole time to keep the sawdust up to it and the smoke
pouring out. If I don't have that long to spare I'll turn the gas up a
bit and do them in 3hrs or so (also depends on fish size/thickness).

Steamed Trout a'la Tony - use a false bottomed fish & vegetable steamer
(about $7 from Woolies). Remove head and tail if fish won't fit in else
just remove tail. Remove dorsal & anal fins by slicing down either side
with a sharp knife and grabbing the rear of the fins and pulling
forwards towards the head (do this with all fish anyway as these bones
are free-floaters and not attached to the backbone*). Grease false
bottom of steamer with butter or marg. In a bowl mix 1-1.5 cups bread
crumbs, 1 large finely diced onion, 1 large peeled carrot finely grated,
a tablespoon of dried mixed herbs (Italian if you want it a bit more
pungent) and grate in some fresh parsley. Stir it all up and moisten it
with bottled lemon juice diluted with 50% water. Just enough to make it
fluffy and a bit drier than say chicken stuffing as water will come out
of the fish and if you start with a 'wet' mix you'll finish up with a
soggy mess which would be a pity as the stuffing is part of the treat
(never cooked for anyone yet who didn't enjoy it). Stuff it liberally
into the fish gut cavity and the dorsal cavity you've hacked out. 6-7
mins in my 800W mwo generally does the trick. The secret with cooking
any fish is timing - it's best just cooked through to the backbone and
no further - a little bit underdone is better than overdone and dried
out.

* once the free-floaters are removed all other bones are attached to the
backbone and can be removed all together in one go - before serving,
remove the skin from top side, run a bread & butter knife (not too sharp
so it wont cut up any of the fine bones) down along the lateral line to
separate the top half of the meat from the bottom half, use a fork to
part the meat away and move it to the side of the dish or serve it out,
you've now got the backbone sitting on top of the other side of the
fish, grab the backbone fore & aft and ease it out. Bingo! No bones. Dig
in!

Geez, I'd better get some work done...


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The smoker is a warm smoker. Best results are when it's done slowly with
the heat right down so more smoke penetration - about 9 hours. You have
to be there the whole time to keep the sawdust up to it and the smoke
pouring out. If I don't have that long to spare I'll turn the gas up a
bit and do them in 3hrs or so (also depends on fish size/thickness).


Gemmel; do you know what sort of smoker this guy uses for smoking for 9 hours. I too have one of those fish smokers you get from fishing shops. Its good too, only takes bout 20 mins for perfectly smoked trout. I would love to try the looonnngg smoking method. I also have a small smoker box for use in my hooded BBQ and think that with one burner on low and constant sawdust/woodchip changes I could achieve the same results, I am yet to try it though.


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He built it himself. It's a brick BBQ with the fire in one bit and a pipe going through to the "smoke" bit where he hangs stuff up. He showed me a photo, but I imagine you can get lots of info off the net about building them.


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BBEAR;
This sounds like a "cold" smoker rather than a "hot" smoker. Cold smokers virtually 'cure' the fish or whatever, after soaking in a brine solution etc (which starts the "cooking" process), whereas a 'hot' smoker relies on the high temperature to "cook" the flesh with the smoke just adding flavour. Cold smoked stuff, IMHO, tastes far smoother and is more tender than hot smoked. It keeps longer as well without refrigeration.
I am building a similar system with a wood fired Pizza oven in leiu of a BBQ and a remote Smoke box for this exact purpose. 100 diameter Earthenware pipe/s for about 2m to cool the smoke, then with a bottom entry to the smoke box (about 600x600 in plan x1000 high), up through the suspended fish/chicken/rabbit etc and vented out at the top through a Chimney stack. Don't really need the stack, but I think it will look nicer!

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Sounds like an awesome design Ian, I understand the difference between hot and cold smoking and have done quite a bit of research on it, seems to be a very american thing. But would really like to try it out.
Maybe if I ever get around to building my deck and BBQ area I will incorporate something similar to your design.
Does anyone else know other ways to cold smoke? are there any manufactured "cold smokers" sold in Australia?


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PostPosted: Feb 11th, '10, 18:03 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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All you need is and old steel locker ,fridge vertical dryer and an electric fry pan gives lots of smoke and little heat
also see here http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/


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The king as far as I am concerned is Eagle :wink:
The photo above has the cold smoker on the right and takes about 2 days to smoke
the vessel on the left is where the hot smoking is done also the fire.
The hot smoker takes about 1/2 hr


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