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Bureaucracy. Another term is "excessive government". The nails in the coffin of healthy free enterprise.

Yes. Is very sad.

We seem to be watching freedoms dying all over the world. Even the simple act of producing food and sharing it as a livelihood is being legislated to death in places. Too many places.

This is not civilization... it is idiocy. Or a new politico-agenda. And if it be the agenda I understand it to be.... then upgraded to super-idiocy.

Watch the right to free enterprise die and you watch the will to work with innovative intelligence die. Fear creeps in more and more as autonomy is wittled away. This is not the way that made any nation great. Can we not at least learn from history?

We have discussed peak phosphorus before and I don't think we are going to run out soon but we will. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=4733&p=167734&hilit=peak+phosphorus#p167734
I agree with Dan's last post we need to close the loop of recycling. My problem with recycling waste effluent is not the pathogens but the pharmacuticals. Bad bacteria is a problem though, but I believe there are good bugs that when found or produced can be put to work to both kill off the pathogens and breakdown the pharmacuticals. I can't see why this hasn't happened yet while we poison the oceans, because if it weren't for those two problems it should be looked at as liquid gold!

The beauty of the Capitalist system usually resolves these problems. Simply , as soon as a Phosphorous becomes expensive enough , it becomes viable to get it back out of the ocean. Of course it would be preferable to not put it all there in the first place.

Yep... when you can no longer rape, pillage and plunder an area... it's nice to be able to resolve the problem by finding a new pool of virgins...

Pity that invasion and colonisation has dropped so much out of favour... sustainability just never was a problem before...

Where's that smart ass icon again?

Never ending supply of planets and moons/comets out there ,, I say STRIP MINE THE MOON to supply the world cheese:)

Oh so sadly prophetic Chappo... ever wondered why there is a new "race to the moon"... including the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Indians....

http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2006/12/72276

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... 83056.html

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/ ... 65069.html

Naked girls plow fields for rain

Did I catch your attention?
No, this is actually for real, read on.

Farmers in an eastern Indian state have asked their unmarried daughters to plow parched fields naked in a bid to embarrass the weather gods to bring some badly needed monsoon rain, officials said on Thursday.
Witnesses said the naked girls in Bihar state plowed the fields and chanted ancient hymns after sunset to invoke the gods. They said elderly village women helped the girls drag the plows.
"They (villagers) believe their acts would get the weather gods badly embarrassed, who in turn would ensure bumper crops by sending rains," Upendra Kumar, a village council official, said from Bihar's remote Banke Bazaar town.
"This is the most trusted social custom in the area and the villagers have vowed to continue this practice until it rains very heavily."
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ ... G020090723

From the heat wave I read about from others, who are on the forum and who live in England, maybe someone has their wires crossed but this is news from their country....

Alarm over dramatic weakening of Gulf Stream
The powerful ocean current that bathes Britain and northern Europe in warm waters from the tropics has weakened dramatically in recent years, a consequence of global warming that could trigger more severe winters and cooler summers across the region, scientists warn today.
Researchers on a scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean measured the strength of the current between Africa and the east coast of America and found that the circulation has slowed by 30% since a previous expedition 12 years ago.
more...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2 ... matechange

Angie, this article is 4 years old... weatherman can't get the weather right for the weekend much less a decade in the future. I've also seen articles how the gulf stream was melting more artic ice. The sunspots and their effect on the weather have been making the news alot recently. Weathermen and Climatologist not even close to exact science, its nice how the hurricane guru's can predict a bunch of hurricanes then 2/3 thru the season they make adjustments Same is true with their big picture stuff. It is funny though how the media is right on cue with the swine flu.

My fish are off their feed ..must be global warming.

I love how people who don't understand much about the environment in detail blame every problem on global warming.

I don't know much about global warming... but I'm sure it's to blame for my lack of knowledge...

We've already discussed the seed vault but there are some plants that can't be stored long tern in that manner- potatoes is one- so the International Treaty on Plant Genetic Resources for Food and Agriculture (ITPGRFA) has come up with a plan. The WHO also hope to slice and dice and cold storage animal genetic material in the future. I hope they have a user friendly manual on their clone machine.

Feeding the future: Saving agricultural biodiversity
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/09 ... index.html

TC, looks like you are getting some validation for your pee-ponics.

Food Crop Fertilizer Features (Gulp!) Human Urine New Fertilizer Is Safe for Humans, Scientists Say
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/DyeHar ... id=8517396

Researchers Find an Increase in Organic Crops Would Help the World Food Supply

http://www.naturalnews.com/024036_food_ ... rmers.html