Availability of Trout

Outbackozzie

Yes, however the Jeep is now gone.... a 30,000km old car should not be so unreliable.... :evil:

Nocky

Popeye, OBO has an excellent setup (pictured page 1) he transported 400 from bunbury to Kalgoorlie in a bit of hot weather and never lost 1, buy an inverter I have a 100wt one (about $25) and you can run several airpumps off that, air is still critical in transporting

Outbackozzie

I am going to have top get a lot more serious about it if the Department of Fisheries growout licence comes through.

Troutman

You already need Translocation Approval to move any non-endemic fish within the state. See point 4.
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/aq/aq022/index.php?0307
I take it you have been doing the right thing now OBO??

Johnh

The wording of that part of the act is very abiguous.
for a start it comes under the heading of "Getting an aquaculture licence" so if we have already determined that we don't need one why would we proceed to read the conditions for getting one.
next point. point four explicitly states that the approval be lodged concurrently with the licence application - as we are not lodging a licence application where is the need to lodge an approval to support one.

regulation 176 of the act may make it more clear - I have not read it yet but reading this document would not convince me that I needed a translocation authority for non commercial purposes.
John

Johnh

OK so section 176 makes it pretty clear
any person requires approval

actually that section has another interesting paragraph on disease, I'll start a thread and try not to hijack.
John

RupertofOZ

Then John, you should look, and proceed under the Quarantine provisions of your state.

WA has some of the strictest quarantine regulations in Australia...

There is a thread here on the forum posted by the WA Translocation officier... might be worthwhile finding it and reading it... :wink:

Outbackozzie

I have read it to be : A licence is only required if moving species to open waterways, or for commercial sale.

Due to the fact that commercial sale requires me to be getting the fish with intention to sell at a profit, when all I am doing is making costs even.

I can only commercialize once I have the licence, which means larger quantities of fish, hence lower cost per fish.

RupertofOZ

In this link - http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/pub/Tran ... 3.php?0505 - it is wrote:

Currently the translocation of a fish species non-endemic to the State of Western Australia, or that particular area of the State, into or within Western Australia requires the prior written approval or written authority of the Executive Director, Department of Fisheries, in accordance with Regulation 176 of the Fish Resources Management Regulations 1995.

Written approval may be obtained through the translocation risk assessment process, which only applies to the translocation of non-endemic species for aquaculture and recreational fishing stock enhancement purposes. Further information and application packages may be obtained from the Department of Fisheries' Translocation Officer on (08) 9482 7385.

It may also be necessary for those wishing to translocate fish species to submit an application for an aquaculture licence under section 92 of the Fish Resources Management Act 1994. If you are unsure as to your responsibilities, further information may be found through the information pamphlet titled, Do you need an aquaculture licence?

As indicated in this pamphlet, it is a legal requirement under the Fish Resources Management Act 1994 that a person who keeps, breeds, hatches or cultures fish must hold an aquaculture licence

Seems pretty clear to me...

RupertofOZ

Quote:

FISH RESOURCES MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS 1995 - REG 176
176 . Control of fish not endemic
(1) A person must not bring into the State, or a particular area of the State, a live fish of a species not endemic to the State, or that area of the State, other than in accordance with —

(a) the written approval of the CEO;

(b) the written authority of the CEO under subregulation (2); or

(c) an aquaculture licence.

(2) An application for an authority under subregulation (1)(b) —

(a) is to be made to the CEO in a form approved for that purpose by the CEO; and

(b) is to be accompanied by the fee set out in item 15 of Part 2 of Schedule 1.

(3) An approval or authority under subregulation (1) is subject to any conditions specified in the approval or authority by the CEO.

(4) The CEO may vary or cancel a condition specified in an approval or authority under subregulation (1) by notice in writing given to the holder of the approval or authority.

(5) The CEO may vary or cancel an approval or authority under subregulation (1) at any time by notice in writing given to the holder of the approval or authority.

(6) A person must not contravene an approval or authority issued under subregulation (1).

(7) A person who is in possession of a fish of any species of fish not endemic to the State, or the area of the State where the person is in possession of the fish, must destroy the fish if the fish is found to be infected with any disease, unless otherwise approved in writing by the CEO.

(8) The species of fish listed in Schedule 10 are to be taken to be not endemic to the State for the purposes of the Act, but Schedule 10 is not a conclusive list of species of fish which are not endemic to the State for the purposes of the Act.

Penalty: $10 000.

[Regulation 176 amended in Gazette 6 Jul 2007 p. 3389-90; 9 Jun 2009 p. 1912.]

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/c ... /s176.html

RupertofOZ

So it would appear that with an "aquaculture" licence and written approval... translocation may not be a problem...

Johnh

I read that as - just with an approval translocation is not a problem. whether having an aquaculture licence or not - it seems to me the approval may be attached to an aquaculture licence so the licencee doesn't need to apply for translocation approval for each instance.

Outbackozzie

Yep, aproval is not required unless you also require an aquaculture licence.

Quote:

which only applies to the translocation of non-endemic species for aquaculture and recreational fishing stock enhancement purposes.

but as I said, I am getting the licence to cover myself. Council aproval first......hopefully Kalgoorlie is better then Roo's council.

RupertofOZ

If you're aiming to grow out for sale OBO... then by definition you'll be operating a commercial business... council probably wont allow you to operate as a "home business"... and probably wont allow a "commercial business" to operate anywhere other than an area zoned as such...

If you're intending to sell filleted, smoked or any other "processed" fish... then you'll need a full HACCP plan and licencing from the Food authority... with mandatory annual inspections...

Approved pest control measures, and coolroom facilities...

And licencing of any delivery vehicle... along with approved datalogging units and records relating to the "cold chain"...

If you're intending to sell "live" fish to a wholesaler or direct to restaurants... then the Food Authority will require licencing of any delivery vehicle...

Bare that in mind when you select any "transporter"... :wink:

Outbackozzie

Yes, thats going to be the battle with the council.....luckily enough a pest control company was running from this house (in the middle of a residential area) and the house is actually zoned pest control. So I am hoping to make some headway there.

So many rules :roll:

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