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PostPosted: Jun 18th, '09, 00:30 
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Some facts about water that you may not know, like the fact that-
A lack of water has increased the use of wastewater for farming. More than 10 percent of the world's people consume foods irrigated by wastewater that may contain chemicals or disease-causing organisms. Yuck.
FACTBOX: Facts on world's water shortage
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Gree ... WW20090616


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PostPosted: Jun 18th, '09, 00:59 
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One way to raise capital.....

Betting the farm on your customers
http://blogs.reuters.com/small-business ... k-thistle/


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Not even a sacred childhood indulgence- eating raw cookie dough- is safe anymore.

Nestle recalls all refrigerated Toll House doughhttp://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=business&id=20090620/4a3c6cd0_3ca6_1552620090620414531344


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UN: World hunger reaches 1 billion mark
http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory. ... 1897348375

If we have enough food right now, how come so many are going hungery? Oh yea I forgot, they're also poor so I guess that makes it okay, you Corporate B*#&*%^*- no profit. I hope my scarcasim was transparent enough.


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I once read the cost of petrol to power the lawn-mowers in the USA would feed the starving ,, corporate ..... nope a bit more personal than that. Then again we could spend all the dollars on useless wind power generation


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I watched Food, Inc. yesterday. A great film to wake people up. My gf now supports all my ideas like worm farms, sustainable living, etc :).

If you have investigated the way our society's food structure works, there's not much new information presented. Still worth watching though for the emotional impact.


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and its fun too

AP is not unique but its one of these technologies thats going to rise out of the grass roots
not any goverment scheme or university study
innovation will be the rule

thats exactly what we need to feed the world

mobilisation of the average joes of the world to get innovative in backyards and back sheds.

theres already a number of inventions that will change the world and solve big problems

just watch the ABC's new inventors!
or look at wind up radios and torches and the story behind that journey.

We are part of that solution. Ive seen it in other forums ive been part of.
in the space on 9 years the online amateur community makes more progress to building and analysing the body of knowledge than the academic world does.

we dream, we build, we fail, we succeed, we talk

some of us will get so good we will go teaching others. first at home, later abroad.

that is the answer. The governmnet is just the problem, dont look to them for help or answers.


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It's amazing how much can be achieved on such a small footprint too with AP. Add a Permaculture "Food Forest" on a larger piece of ground and you are already a long way ahead in creating answers to world food shortage. With certain plants like Moringa and Alfalfa and Spirulina the war against malnutrition can be won. It is the backyard operators that corporately can bring real change... if legislation is prevented from interfering.


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It seems everytime you turn around, food is in the news. If it's not a recall, it's the demise of one part or another of our food chain. I already told you about the dairy industry- that they are struggling so much that there have been suicides around here because of it. The lack of water in California has caused a great deal of havoc here- even a traffic accident when farmers on tractors took to the freeways to protest the water crisis. The pork industry is finally getting back to normal, at least nationally, after being linked- in name only- to the Swine Flu- although Asian markets are no longer importing pork from the U.S. The catfish industry is all but gone in the Southern states, thanks to high feed and energy costs. Now the chicken is following the same path for the same reasons as the catfish.
It makes you wonder where it will end?

What the Cluck? Why America's Favorite Meat Faces Trouble
Health and Labor Concerns Are Dogging the Poultry Industry

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/TheBigMo ... 742&page=1


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The Coming Oil Crisis
....The scenario goes something like this: the ongoing depletion of the world's oil resources, coupled with soaring demand from emerging economies like India and China, will send the price of crude through the roof, Rubin says. This will seriously escalate transportation costs, which in turn will cripple international trade, reverse commercial interdependence and disable the global economy. The resulting age will be one in which nations are isolated, technological progress is sluggish and travel is infrequent. The Middle East will be less relevant than it is today, and food scarcity will emerge as the foremost international problem. Countries with a shortage of arable land will scramble and compete to buy agricultural real estate from other nations (for example, as Saudi Arabia is already now doing in Sudan) to alleviate their ever-worsening food crises.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/202907

I find it strange that everyone can comprehend the inevitability of oil running out, if for no other reason that it is a limited resource, with very few viable alternatives to replace it- but it's like everyone seems to have blinders on or feel that someone or the government will come to the rescue at the last minute- what happens if it doesn't???


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PostPosted: Jun 22nd, '09, 02:56 
And besides the sheer transportation problems to food distribution that oil shortage would cause...

The entire means of food production, that rely on fertilisers and pesticides which are petro-chemical based, would collapse... leading to worldwide famine and instability...


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Angie wrote:
Not even a sacred childhood indulgence- eating raw cookie dough- is safe anymore.

Nestle recalls all refrigerated Toll House dough


Bummer, thats the only cookie doe on the marked down here that you can read the ingredients list on. It must just be a ploy to get GMO corn syrup cookies a larger marked share, lol; JK.


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PostPosted: Jun 23rd, '09, 23:51 
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Monsanto, Dole in vegetable collaboration
Monsanto Co and Dole Fresh Vegetables Inc said on Tuesday that they would collaborate to develop vegetables that could be more attractive to consumers.
Monsanto and Dole said they would use plant breeding to improve the nutrition, flavor, color, texture, taste and aroma of the vegetables. The five-year collaboration will focus on broccoli, cauliflower, lettuce and spinach, the companies said.
If new products were created under the collaboration, they could be commercialized by Dole in North America.
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Gree ... T820090623

You know what I would like to see are labels that show which products, including processed and fresh, have been genetically tampered with so I can avoid them like the plague. Maybe a skull and crossbones logo might be appropriate.


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PostPosted: Jun 24th, '09, 00:35 
Perhaps we could assist Monsanto & Dole in the quest for a more wholesome, flavoursome products...

Like directing them towards heirloom seeds... :mrgreen:


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