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 Post subject: Re: Daniel's System
PostPosted: Nov 7th, '06, 20:01 
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this is what written on my interpet "No. 10 Methylene blue" bottle.

When i was using it previously there wasn't any real bio filter in my system just a simple sponge filter.


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thanks for that, yeah no 7 says about the filter....

i think i might remove the biofilter while treating, and place in another tank, and pop it back once its done, so i dont have to re cycle the filter


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is no. 7 anti slime and velvet, i've tried using it in my aquarium with cannister filter. didn't notice anything wrong with the bio filter after one week of treatment.


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oops, i ment note 7 on the methlyne blue bottle pic you uploaded above


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Anyways i have been getting a few anphibious visitors from the creek, and decided that because the test silver perch are still alive and any diseases etc have probably been introduced already if there were any, i am going to chuck some of the quarantined shrimp in and hope they breed


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you guys may want to research the meth blue a little before putting it into a system with edible fish and plants :shock:

and DEFINATLY DONT USE malachite green :shock:


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this is from the wikipedia about methylene blue

"Pranks

Methylene blue is highly stable in the human body, and if ingested, it resists the acidic environment of the stomach as well as the many hydrolytic enzymes present. It is not significantly metabolized by the liver, and is instead quickly filtered out by the kidneys. A common prank amongst biochemists is to add small amounts of methylene blue (generally a few drops of a stain solution will suffice) to coffee, cola, or another dark beverage. The stain's color will be masked by the beverage, and its taste is fairly faint. Within a few hours, the methylene blue will have been removed by the prank victim's kidneys, causing his urine to change color. The urine may become green if little methylene blue was added; larger amounts create a deep blue color. The prank is fairly harmless if small amounts of methylene blue are used, although allergies are possible and it is advisable to use pharmaceutical-grade stain which has been carefully protected from contamination. The main risk of methylene blue pranks is generating a sense of panic in the victim. Another common prank is to introduce a slight amount of the dye (usually adsorbed on a sliver of filter paper) into an NMR tube, thereby introducing substantial impurities into the sample and necessitating its repurification."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_blue

guess you can use it as a april fool's prank


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Ok, i might have been biased by malachite green. Yyou find anything on that?


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check this out regarding the use of malachite green on use of fish deemed for human consumption

http://www.aquacultureassociation.ca/ne ... l%2006.pdf


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I wouldn't touch it, and apparently its a taratogen sp.? ie passes from mother to child in pregnant women and can have mutagenic consequences in babies in utero :shock:

Besides, its strictly forbidden in oz for human consumption fish. The DPI/F rep that was present at minnamurra freaked when some one mentioned M.green :shock:


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whoa, i will definately stear clear of malachite green, as for the Methylene blue, i will only use on ornamentals if needed (just in case...)


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very last note on that list above is the most important one! bacteria fungus even parasites are everywhere, its only whn water quality drops that things go south. usually. ;)


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steve wrote:
very last note on that list above is the most important one! bacteria fungus even parasites are everywhere, its only whn water quality drops that things go south. usually. ;)


Very True, but unfertilized eggs seem to always become fungused, and the fungus slowly spreads to the healthy eggs too, so i would be using the bromethlene blue to prevent it (If i decide it would be helpful that is)


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True, angel eggs are testament to this, but the convict chiclids never have a problem, go figure.

I also found that if i moved the eggs to an emty tank they fungus'ed up much more than if i left them in the care of the parents.


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More spawns of the angels, but all my tanks are filled up with guppies atm so the eggs are getting eaten...


Anyways a quick question, has anyone ever seen a black fantail goldfish? I had some goldfish that spawned earlier this year, and for the last couple of months they were a coppery, chocolaty, plain colour. As expected the colour has taken a while develop, but they are starting to change colours, mostly to a typical gold colour, however i have a few that are turning black. Has anyone ever seen this or heard of this? They are not black moors, they look exactly the same as typical fantails, just black...


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