Backyard Aquaponics
A place to discuss aquaponics

Here is a nice modern looking straw bale house..

Meant no offence ROO. Just was not interested in any more unpleasant wrangling. You will have to allow that someone who builds her life daily on the study of the Christian Scriptures might have some insights that you don't about Christianity. That is all the point about depth I was really making. Your understanding about this subject in particular is very general and it shows. Again... no offence... just stating something that has become obvious to me over time.

If I had never married and set myself up as more knowledgable about marriage than a married person I might clearly be open to misconception. Commitment makes the difference. It cannot be part-time but is daily and intimate. To presume that knowledge without the experience of marriage opens me to presumptious conclusions. My daily walk with Christ is like that.... and what I have seen you write shows me you have absolutely no understanding about it at a meaningful level at all. How could you? Not expected. Just not interested in having it trashed by someone who can't possibly understand... and shows it.

We search where we wish to search. My understanding about Buddhism is very shallow perhaps in comparison to yours. I have no problem with that. As Shakespeare said in Hamlet: "To thine own self be true...."

+1 DDM

Those people may have no tv.. cars...etc but they have so much more. Things have replaced relationships in our culture to some degree. It is a lonesome world out there today. Even little kids get toys and tv rather than time in a lot of homes.

I think transition might just come upon us suddenly if enough of us don't wake up in time so I am also easing into a transition myself too. No matter how much it costs it will be nothing if the future holds steadier. The cost of a chicken and seeds are nothing compared to the cost of not having them when no longer available to have. True investment.

That is a really nice straw bale house....

If my "understanding about this subject in particular" was "very general"... and only a cursory examination... then I may have been tempted to a greater degree of acceptance...

And I have no problem accepting the record of oral history/folklore... of the "old testaments" that form both the basis of the bible and koran...

But a greater "indepth" critique of the numerous authors, ghost-writers, edits etc that form the compilation of what has become known as the "new testaments".... and the basis of "Christianity"...

Within an historical and polictical perspective... and examination of the "churches" role and practices over the last 2000 years.... through the same filters....

Leads me to a totally different perspective....

But... each to their own.... and as you say... "To thine own self be true...."

Not just general in knowledge ROO. Way off at times too.... Can you give it a rest? Each to his own. You seem to have a strong need to antagonise and dishonour. Cheap shots are wasted on me. If you wish to engage in real debate... be a worthy opponent. From the inside looking out this is all just sillyness. You dishonour yourself more than the God I serve.

A friend from the States sent this to me today. Hope this is just a fairy tale.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/g ... a_171.html

I'm merely defending and deflecting ... the cheap shots that come my way Cyara...

I'll happily engage in "real" debate... and would hope that I had a "worthy" opponent...


P.S... just where, in what area do you think my knowledge is lacking... I'll happily take advise ... and research it further...

Perhaps, with further examination... it may be that it's not my knowledge ... that's lacking...

Nope. Other way round. I never trail your postings and trash them. Your need to do so with mine has got very old now.

Hmmm... a real debate. Your postings so far have not shown real interest. Just shallow digging in order to trash. I have seriously engaged you at times just to have you go off on silly tangents to wrangle inconsequentials.... not to mention the anger, insults and even threats you are comfortable displaying. Pointless.

Ever read Josh McDowell's EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A VERDICT? He set out once and for all to refute the claims of Christ with honest research ........ and ended up a dedicated Christian.

He is a worthy opponent. Worthy in that his searching was honest and honourable.

If you had a sincere desire to understand more about Chrisitanity you would be very interested to read it. If not, you will prefer to just keep wrangling. You know it all after all......

Bullocks Cyara... you've never really advanced anything... other than "I believe"...

You have never addressed any of the issues I've raised... and YOU want to talk about tangents... and insults....



You've got to be kidding me... your links are a consistant load of anti-Obama, Obama is a commie, my red sock got lost and came back as a commie and duely was elected as the President due to a world plot led by Mr VT & Mrs TMV....

You want to debate religion... religous philosophy... or even theology ... go right ahead....

You want to debate the hippocracy of modern Western Churches... bring it on...

But if you merely wish to expound.... "I believe"....

Then Cyara... for about the fourth time.... "each to their own"... and "To thine own self be true"....

Can't help yourself can you ROO?

I guess you are being true to yourself...........

Go trail someone else. Will no longer engage with you. Endless. Pointless.

Sorry Cyara.... forgot that you would want to have the last word....

Damn... did it again...

Oh... before you go..... why did God create sentient life??

Back to food... and industrial nazis... this should raise your hackles...

http://www.examiner.com/x-5405-NY-Garde ... use-garden

I guess the "trick" to it all is belief. Its all foolishness to those who don't believe and to those that do believe everything else is foolishness, or at lease secondary in concern. Its a paradox. To "know" something you have to have more than knowledge. You have to have experience. Im not saying check you brain at the door. Knowledge "puffs up." I dont like the word christian. It was a derogatory statement at one time and it's inaccurate at so many levels. To follow "god" you cant give it a try and see how it fits, you cant read about it. You have to submit to it (and I'm sure NOT talking about submitting to religion; a MAJOR pain in the life of this world). Submit your desires, will, emotions, everything that you are. To do less than that is to do nothing but waste your time. I think its the submit part that is the real stickler for most people (my wild guess). The fact is that is fun/very enjoyable to do the things "god" says to not do. So to submit seems maniacal, and the idea steps on the toes of our pride, I mean who is god to tell me what to do. Even so it is perfectly reasonable to have faith.

You know its funny. If a group of people wait on a mountain top and do weird things waiting for aliens to some pick them up for a ride, people laugh, when people follow ANY other god or profit or person its "ok," but when a person *claims* to follows the god of the jews the one who called himself Yahweh, or his son THEN there is a problem? Why do you think that is? Something on a subconscious level perhaps? Inbred evolution? lol. What ever it is, its universal.

Rupe your an amazing smart person and have my every respect. Your vast knowledge is a pleasure to learn from! However, you do seem to follow Cyara around and pester her like a little brother might when she share what she loves. None of us are perfect, few of us are consistent. One thing I can say about both of you is that you are consistent with what you believe. Now, that is rare!

I dont know if its true, but I heard that someone was wanting to not let that garden be planted. It will be interesting to see what happens. Think anyone will eat form that garden if its completed to maturity?

i like all forms of alternative housing and construction. so sad that big greed waylays all that could actually be done. too wet for strawbale only here. a hybrid of straw and truck tires will work great but is super labor intensive. i have pounded 350 truck tires by myself before and also mined the dirt by hand to fill them. i wont be doing it again now that i found sea container path

as far as food underground . the sea container
build method makes the most sense to me

get 3 in the U shape and cover the courtyard
with greenhouse material
containers can easily be bermed too but the structural integrity is in the corners. massively strong but only on corners and to fully bury will require lots of costly bracing overseen by structural engineers ($$)



berming is enough to get the benefits of natural heating and cooling if you insulate and ventilate correctly. add a muchkin boiler
system with radiant floor and you are good to go.

sea containers already have a 2" hardwood floor that will support 26k minimum when new

do consider the additon of sacrificial anode rods. containers are well rustproofed but will corrode if buried without the anodes.







cheap viable and tough. can be really classy upscale home with some added funds and vision.





tis one of the very few turds that can actually be polished up nicely hehehehe