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PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 00:40 
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Rupe, you are right about Monsanto

People in the US have no idea how much they are a part of our everyday visit to the grocery store.

Bonnie Plant Farm is a wholly owned subsidy of Monsanto.
Garguilo Produce is a wholly owned subsidy of Monsanto and they claim to have 85% of the world tomato market. Garguilo pretty well eliminated all the independent tomato growers in FL with the Salmonella scare that had nothing to do with FL tomatoes and only benifitted Garguilo. Wouldn't suprise me if its a similar thing behind the salmonella in peanut scare. Something like that shuts down small producers.

Aspartame is a Monsanto product. The list goes on and on.
It goes beyond money, they want to own the worlds food supply. It does my heart good to see all you folks into AP and food indepence.


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hu - Aspartame, well isnt that a great thing, most people have no idea of what it is or what it does, like a double edge sword, food that now makes people obese with all the bad transfat and other crap and then we are told to get healthy, exercise and eat right, which I think is great and then normally along with that comes diet every with artificial sweetners, so we will lose weight and get healthier, something to ponder isnt it


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We lease our land to a dairy farm who grows corn for his cows. This stuff is has been engineered to tolerate round-up weed killer. Once it starts growing (along with the weeds), they spray everything with roundup. Everything is dead in a couple of days except the corn. :twisted: It's quite impressive and frightening at the same time.

Before I get critized too badly for allowing this: It's the only way we can recoop the taxes on owning the land. We currently have the property registered as open space, but still pay big $'s for taxes. The other option is to do what most of the other farms do around here...go out of business. :( The last crop a farm will grow is houses. :cry:


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Because we have let them... for thirty years.... time to call in the accounts I reckon...

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hu - Aspartame, well isnt that a great thing, most people have no idea of what it is or what it does, like a double edge sword, food that now makes people obese with all the bad transfat and other crap and then we are told to get healthy, exercise and eat right, which I think is great and then normally along with that comes diet every with artificial sweetners, so we will lose weight and get healthier, something to ponder isnt it

Right on the nail Bridgette. Aspartame (nutrasweet- Monsanto) breaks down into methanol which is turned into formadehyde by the liver within hours. Formaldehyde causes gradual but severe damage to the immune system, neurological system, and causes permanent genetic damage at extremely low doses. Small amounts bind to protein and accumulate in the organs (brain/kidneys/liver) and tissues. The methanol in alcoholic beverages and fruit and juices does not react this way because of other protective chemicals within these beverages. Excitotoxic amino acids quicky released from aspartame are believed to increase the damage by the formaldehyde.

Analysis Shows Nearly 100% of Independent Research Finds Problems With Aspartame...... http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/100.html

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Consumers have reported aspartame side effects since 1974. The FDA follows up complaints with constant testing and reporting on the artificial sweetener. The FDA lists close to a hundred reported side effects of aspartame on its website. Aspartame makes up the largest percent of consumer complaints to the FDA, with over half of the total number of complaints about consumer issues.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4703339_recogni ... ptoms.html

And it is still on market shelves worldwide... go figure. :roll: Not... Monsanto!


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A link worth posting .... Scientific Abuse in Methanol / Formaldehyde Research Related to Aspartame.....
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ab ... hanol.html


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Which raises the point about the FDA itself... there seems to be many inconsistancies within that organisation....

Wonder if it has anything to do with the "big business" lobby way of doing things up on "capitol hill"

IMO... nothing will ever change (in the US) until the lobby system is outlawed and/or dismantled... and that in some ways includes foreign policy as well...


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A link worth posting .... Scientific Abuse in Methanol / Formaldehyde Research Related to Aspartame.....
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ab ... hanol.html


Well that's a bugger... can't eat tomatos, fruit because of the methanol toxicity... can't eat anything from the supermarket because of the sugar/sweetners added...

Can't eat meat... for all sorts of reasons... can't drink milk... and you wouldn't want to drink most of the water, especially the "health" spring waters ... :lol:

Can't eat most of the fish... and probably most of the nuts and veges as well

Thank God for aquaponics and bringing food production back home...

The only thing I'm curious about... is how come we're all still alive?


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Which raises the point about the FDA itself... there seems to be many inconsistancies within that organisation....

Wonder if it has anything to do with the "big business" lobby way of doing things up on "capitol hill"

No doubt about it. FDA is bought and paid for....


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The only thing I'm curious about... is how come we're all still alive?

Yes :D But of course there is alive... and thrivingly healthily alive. 100 years ago people were truly alive. Now too many wade through a fog of fatigue and general unwellness, if not outright disease. Type 2 diabetes is something more people than not are affected with in the western world...and don't even know it. It takes a very determined effort to be healthy these days... :roll:


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Rupe, you are right about Monsanto

People in the US have no idea how much they are a part of our everyday visit to the grocery store.

Bonnie Plant Farm is a wholly owned subsidy of Monsanto.
Garguilo Produce is a wholly owned subsidy of Monsanto and they claim to have 85% of the world tomato market. Garguilo pretty well eliminated all the independent tomato growers in FL with the Salmonella scare that had nothing to do with FL tomatoes and only benifitted Garguilo. Wouldn't suprise me if its a similar thing behind the salmonella in peanut scare. Something like that shuts down small producers.

Aspartame is a Monsanto product. The list goes on and on.
It goes beyond money, they want to own the worlds food supply. It does my heart good to see all you folks into AP and food indepence.

I didn't know this. What a shame, but it brings understanding to me with their two prong way of making money. Hybridize the seed, corner the market, jack up the price! This is why you can hardly find the cheap 6 pk seedling plants for about a buck, now what you get is singles for about a buck and a half or two bucks!


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The only thing I'm curious about... is how come we're all still alive?

Yes :D But of course there is alive... and thrivingly healthily alive. 100 years ago people were truly alive. Now too many wade through a fog of fatigue and general unwellness, if not outright disease. Type 2 diabetes is something more people than not are affected with in the western world...and don't even know it. It takes a very determined effort to be healthy these days... :roll:


Hmmmm....sound like what our honey bees are going through: a lot of impacts on health that add up to CCD (colony collapse disorder). So, are we next?


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RupertofOZ wrote:
The only thing I'm curious about... is how come we're all still alive?

Yes :D But of course there is alive... and thrivingly healthily alive. 100 years ago people were truly alive. Now too many wade through a fog of fatigue and general unwellness, if not outright disease. Type 2 diabetes is something more people than not are affected with in the western world...and don't even know it. It takes a very determined effort to be healthy these days... :roll:


Hmmmm....sound like what our honey bees are going through: a lot of impacts on health that add up to CCD (colony collapse disorder). So, are we next?

Sure hope not. Guys like Bill Mollison are doing lots right...astonishing how he can turn the most barren land productive again.... one of his food forests could probably reverse CCD in a hive. No bees... not anything. :( I watched a video where earthworms reversed highly toxic land in 4 years to fertile. They did pile in the earthworms... the first ones died... but the following generations got the job done and cleansed the land. When earthworms are stressed they breed and lay eggs. The next generation are more adapted to the environment. Not for nothing the Chinese written symbol for Earthworm is Angels of the Earth. If enough of us can just wise up...... Big Business needs customers. We need to tell them what we will and won't buy and not vice versa. Not saying it's easy... took years to get us here..... but what Bill has achieved is very encouraging. He said NO....no-one listened.... and then showed HOW instead. Complicated when Big Business determines legislation though. Everyone in the States who wants to farm organically should follow Bush to Paraguay and squat on his nice clean legislatively-free farm land....


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"Complicated when Big Business determines legislation though. Everyone in the States who wants to farm organically should follow Bush to Paraguay and squat on his nice clean legislatively-free farm land...." :sign5: I totally agree! He really did give away the Farm!


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