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 Post subject: Nine meals from anarchy?
PostPosted: Mar 10th, '09, 15:11 
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Read this in the Age today. Thought it was interesting.

The Age - Epicure -Richard Cornish March 10, 2009 wrote:
Richard Cornish meets the man known as the Al Gore of food security.

HE LOOKS more like a genial uncle than a harbinger of doom, but the UK Soil Association's Patrick Holden visited Australia recently to deliver a sobering message.

Holden, the head of the Bristol-based charitable organisation that promotes organic farming, gave a series of public lectures in Sydney and met food industry figures at a private meal hosted by Kylie Kwong. Sometimes referred to as the Al Gore of food security, Holden warned that if the west doesn't focus on shoring up food security it could leave itself open to a food crisis.

"Think of the global credit crises," he says. "Well, in 10 to 15 years we could see something similar happen with food, a sort of global food crunch. This would have far worse consequences than this financial crises ... In just a few generations we have burned almost all our reserves of fossil fuel and pumped the gas into the atmosphere."

Holden refers to the fact that almost all the food in the Western world is grown using oil. Tractors and harvesters run on diesel, chemical pesticides are made from oil; fertilisers are either made directly from oil or mined from rapidly diminishing mineral reserves.

He also describes a global food production and distribution system that uses oil to transport food not only around the world but within national borders.

"We rely so much on oil for our food that if something were to disrupt that supply, such as a political incident like we saw recently when Russia cut off gas supplies to Europe this winter, terrorism or war, then our food stocks would run out.

"We must also consider that we have reached peak oil production and it's just going to get more expensive from now on."

A report by the Soil Association refers to the 2000 fuel protest that brought London to within three days of running out of food. The first head of the Blair government Countryside Agency, Lord Cameron of Dillington, came back with a chilling report: "The nation is just nine meals from anarchy."

Holden wants governments around the world to tackle what he calls an "emergency in the wings".

"I look around Sydney and it's obvious. The city has engulfed so much arable land, its farming land and now the food has to come from so much further away. It's the same for all Australian cities."

He says governments should consider putting plans in place to achieve sustainable agriculture that doesn't rely on oil and chemical fertilisers, and to grow staples close to where people live.

He points to organic farming not just as a way of farming sustainably, but also of sequestering carbon from the atmosphere. "Our practice of using nitrogen fertilisers is oxidising our soils," he says.

"The nitrogen burns the carbon and this goes up into the atmosphere as CO2."

When asked if his claims might just be a way of scaring people onto the organic bandwagon, he says: "I am not apocalyptic. But yes, I want to see more people farming organically. What is at stake is our health and the future of the next generation."

Holden sees a need for a bottom-up movement where people put pressure on governments to address food security.

"In the UK, for example, there are 3.5 million members of the National Trust - an organisation that preserves our physical heritage," he says.

"There are 1.2million members for the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, but there is no real movement to protect the safety of our food."


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Interesting article.
It is not just sustainable agriculture we need. To survive we will need a sustainable population and economy. An economy which works on 0 growth otherwise we are in trouble. Countries and economies can only grow so big.


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Gilly wrote:
An economy which works on 0 growth otherwise we are in trouble.


That is it in a "nut shell." Our whole world, by greed, has adapted the pyramid scheme using wealth that does not exist. Problem is, if things dont keep growing all the people at the bottom are left with nothing and only a select few at the top have much of anything. It impossible for things to continue this way for ever. Personally Im getting tired of all this usury by our corporations and governments.


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PostPosted: Mar 10th, '09, 23:38 
Couldn't agree more Dandi.... :cheers:


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With the current monoculture crop production natural disaster such as disease or plague are likely to shock us before energy shortages. There was a report recently about the UK building massive covered hydroponic systems, it claimed that 15% of the UK vegetables would be supplied by this one system - if it failed the effect would be severe. I think Western Australia is also moving to these systems.

If we don't do something to restore the lands hydrology as suggested by Peter Andrews and others and as has been demonstrated by Salisbury in SA many of us will be living in deserts long before we run out of oil. Deserts are not good places to try to grow food.

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i dont wish to hijack this thread because it is best to let it run its course...


australians since the early 70s have been saying what was written in that article.. hence permaculture was invented.

mollison, holmgren, prof ian low and tim flannery have been giving or screaming this message for most of thier lives.. but not many have been listening

recently here in se qld a council invited a guest lecturer (from the usa i think)to give talks and workshops on permaculture......

this site...... http://www.seac.net.au was developed in se qld but has info for everyone.
it has info about peak oil, transition towns and buying locally..

also try to see the doco "power of community" which is about cuba's way of surviving peak oil.. they lost their oil when russia collapsed and the u.s. would not sell them any.

we may becoming aware of what is going on now.... but we need to know that there is many people here that have been trying to tell us for a long time...

if you look at the worlds ecomonomy AND the threat of peak oil AND the potential effects of climate change... we really should be listening and actioning... and maybe join these wackos and hippys on their soapbox's...


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PostPosted: Mar 11th, '09, 14:23 
We are... that's why we're here... :wink:


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yeah i know......


preaching to the converted...........


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PostPosted: Mar 11th, '09, 15:36 
The more people that make a noise, and the more often.... the louder the clamer will become...

You keep preaching ....


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