Ebay stuff

RupertofOZ

Who doesn't use a sniper when bidding on eBay???

KudaPucat

I don't.
I believe in fair bidding, I will place a bid at the last minute, but automated bidding is just wrong. It perverts the idea of an auction.
This is where the eBay deadline is in itself a perversion.

Grays auctions on the other hand, will extend their auctions by 5 minutes if a bid is placed in the final 5 minutes. (or some similar protocol) This is true auctions style, the goods go for what their worth, not what they're sniped at.

veggie boy

Goods go for what people are prepared to pay for them Kuda - whether that is via a program (which means they don't have to be at the computer) or bidding in person at the time.

Unfortunately - it would seem that in most instances, people are prepared to pay more than me :lol:

RupertofOZ

Only for the good stuff VB... :mrgreen:

Vegieman

RupertofOZ wrote:

Only for the good stuff VB... :mrgreen:

As the nice big thing in the front of your house proves there mate :wink:

KudaPucat

veggie boy wrote:

Goods go for what people are prepared to pay for them Kuda - whether that is via a program (which means they don't have to be at the computer) or bidding in person at the time.

Unfortunately - it would seem that in most instances, people are prepared to pay more than me :lol:

I disagree, as if I were allowed, I would outbid your snipe. This is the way an auction goes. You know: Final bid is taken, then 'Going once... Going Twice... For the third and final time...' etc
this way it is ensured that bidding is finished, and not arbitrarily cutoff, relying on fastest finger last.

Anyhow, this is an opinion, and is irrelevant to anything currently for sale on eBay, so is that far off topic, that I can't even see the road anymore.

RupertofOZ

But that's the way eBay auctions work Kuda... fastest finger last....

They expire at a certain time... the virtual hammer falls... end of auction...

What difference does it make whether you submit your bid as the hammer falls...electronically, but manually by hitting the bid button... or electronically by a timer triggered bid???

At what if you want something but can't be present at auction end....

As VB found.... if you use a "snipe" program... you must enter your "highest bid amount" when placing the snipe... and the snipe will fail if people have bid above, or essentially equal to your "high" amount...

It's the risk you take... just like a "sealed" envelope tender...

Jensilaedi

I think there's are some points that ebay might have considered...

Sometimes auctions take too long... like some people might only make the auction longer by going up by 1 cent increments or whatever so they have time to make up their minds on whether they really want the item or how much they're prepared to pay. Auctions taking too long might make some people angry. I don't think ebay could afford angry people.

Also some sellers just don't have the time to stick around - ie. moving house.

In a way deadlines are a good thing coz at least buyers will know when it's going to end and this is last chance to bid whether or not they want it, rather than wasting their time watching 2 someones go up in small amounts every 5 f***king minutes.

KudaPucat

I understand this rupe. The idea of an auction however is to raise interest and encourage bids.
The thing about auctions is that they make you want to spend more money than you originally would, because: It's only a little bit more (10 times) they also give ppl the feeling that whilst they're bidding only a little bit more, they're saving money.
Sellers should relax, and check it only every so often. If needing to move house, I see your point Jen
Every other thing I've mentioned is better for the seller though.
When I really want something I bit a stupid amount, knowing that if someone snipes me, they're more of an idiot than myself.
That said, why I don't like snipers, is that for 6 hours I'm winning this thing at $50.23 my max bid is $100 (about what it's worth) so I'm rather happy that 5 minutes remains and I'm gonna get it half price :cheers:

Then some1 snipes a bid at $95, making my bid go up to $95.50
Then I come down, fast. Euphoria is crushed and I struggle to pick myself off the floor. Sure I still won it, but that B******* just made me pay double!
If he'd tried that 2 hours previous, I wouldn't have minded (as much).

Vegieman

Well eBay or not, the bloody tanks didn't sell this time :cry:

But they will be relisted later but in a different format [individual tanks etc.] and we will see if that does the trick.
Kuda, what is this Greys Auctions is a fee for service site as eBay is?

Vegieman

Dont matter Kuda I have had a squizzy and they seem to be a bit limited on both products and product descriptions

I did spot these though and thought that they could be handy for back up water supply :wink:

http://www.graysonline.com.au/lot.asp?LOT_ID=3388655#

Vegieman

For thwho cant find Greys here is what they say about these water tanks

Quote:

NEW HANDY TANK 1000 LITRE RRP $399.00 THE DIY HANDYTANK WATER TANKS ARE WATER STORAGE TANKS DEVELOPED WITH THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT IN MIND. THE HANDYTANK WATER TANKS COME IN A FLAT-PACK BOX AND CAN BE EASILY TRANSPORTED HOME IN MOST FAMILY CARS AND WILL TAKE NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES TO ASSEMBLE. THE HANDYTANK WATER TANKS ARE DURABLE MARINE GRADE PVC BLADDERS SUPPORTED BY CLIP TOGETHER TUBULAR ZINC PLATED STEEL FRAMES ENCLOSED BY ATTRACTIVE MESH COVERS. THE TANKS HAVE INBUILT CONNECTIONS AND TANK FITTINGS SUPPLIED. ALL THREADED FITTINGS ARE 18MM (3/4 ) BSP. THE INNOVATIVE DESIGN OF EACH HANDYTANK WATER TANK OFFERS VARIOUS PLUMBING OPTIONS. THE QUICKEST OF THESE IS TO SIMPLY DIRECT THE DOWN PIPE STRAIGHT TO THE TOP SURFACE OF THE HANDYTANK , CAPTURING ALL RAINWATER. THEN CONNECT THE OVERFLOW OUTLET (USING THE FLEXIBLE PIPE PROVIDED WITH THE HANDYTANK TO THE BASE OF THE EXISTING DOWN PIPE AND THE HANDYTANK WATER TANK IS READY FOR USE. THE HANDYTANK WATER TANK CAN BE EASILY RELOCATED OR PACKED AWAY AND STORED. FOR GREATER CAPACITY TWO OR MORE HANDYTANK FOR HOUSEHOLDS LOOKING FOR A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO COLLECT AND SAVE WATER, THE DIY HANDYTANK WATER TANK IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE. IT IS QUICK AND EASY TO INSTALL AND DUE TO ITS COMPACT DIMENSIONS REQUIRES LITTLE SPACE THE HARVESTED WATER IS IDEAL FOR WATERING GARDENS AND LAWNS OR FOR WASHING CARS, BOATS AND PAVING AND IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT TOO.

WITH MANY COUNCILS AND STATE GOVERNMENTS OFFERING REBATES TO HOUSEHOLDS WHO CHOOSE TO INSTALL A WATER TANK, THE ALREADY COST EFFECTIVE HANDYTANK WATER TANK WILL BECOME AN EVEN MORE ATTRACTIVE OPTION, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HELPING SAVE OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE; WATER.

DIY PLUMBING OPTIONS
QUICK EASY INSTALLATION
INSTALL YOURSELF OR USE A PLUMBER
CONNECT A HANDYTANK TO EACH DOWNPIPE
FOR EXTRA CAPACITY PLUMB MULTIPLE TANKS TOGETHER
SHADE COVER PROVIDED FOR ADDED PROTECTION
EASILY EMPTIED AND RELOCATED IF REQUIRED
DISMANTLE AND PACK FOR STORAGE IF REQUIRED
TANK PLUMBING FITTINGS AND 32MM PIPE INCLUDED.(SN:HANDY1000)(109563 - 1)

Food&Fish

Have a look at the second photo you may as well fill a baloon with water it would be just as strong greys have been trying to sell them for a while [must have been a failed buisness venture]
you will see a lot of greys stuff is stuff that dident sell very well out in the real world

Vegieman

Food&Fish wrote:

Have a look at the second photo you may as well fill a baloon with water it would be just as strong greys have been trying to sell them for a while [must have been a failed buisness venture]
you will see a lot of greys stuff is stuff that dident sell very well out in the real world

Yep not real solid BUT I still feel they would be a handy thing to have on hand in case of emergencies such an outbreak in the fish stocks etc.

I guess they could also be handy for those who want to have extra water on hand in times of other emergency events i.e. Bushfires, Water Restrictions [Council rebates] etc.

The fact that they flat pack is also a bonus as far as storage is concerned.

Just my thoughts is all :lol:

dduncomb

Anyone interested in one of these?

Cheers.

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