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PostPosted: Jun 18th, '06, 22:33 
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Maybe on this thread some Mossambique mouthbrooder (Mossambiques) enthusiasts can compare notes!

Anyone got any contacts in WA regards anyone who has red or pink varieties. (Fashionable in Florida in reataurants I believe!)

If I could get red or pink breeding stock .. I would love it .. these babies are amazing beautiful BIG fun to keep fish!


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i cant understand why WA lets you keep them. You'd think they would be more of a problem over there with populations acidentally taking hold than here. You are slightly warmer climate than us in vic, aren't you?


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Steve ...

I got no idea ..

Our school has to do paperwork for aquaculture .. if we sell fish.

No paperwork for Tilapia as pets here but paperwork for Silver Perch!

I don't get it

Tilapia are a menace! But at curent temps they would die off in Perth .

Up North WA .. Chapman river .. they have gone feral!

Once I get fully conversant with these fish .. I would like to move into trying something like some tropical ornamntals ... things like electric yellows ...




But they sure are amazing fish to raise!


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Anyway .. pinks and reds ... lemme know!

Here are some pics of these amazing fish! 8)

http://images.google.com.au/images?hl=e ... a=N&tab=wi

I would loveto get my hands on a breeding set of these! They would look just as lovely on a plate or in an aquarium!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tilapia.jpg

But NOT in WA waterways!


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We have enough pests in Aussie already without those little mongrels (Tilapia) Very illegal here in Qld and rightly so.
We are blessed here in Aussie with a large variety of amazing native species that are very well suited to Aquaponics....Why muck around with those things.
Look at the problems we have here on the east coast with Carp.... dreadful mess...
It's is obvious the Americans use the Tilapia, perhaps that's all they have...
If they are not native don't use them...Look at the problems we have now with the Cain Toad...I don't think you have them in Perth ....YET...
Wait until you have to deal with those lovely little fellows....
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We are having a huge campaign at the moment to try and keep the cain toad out.... They are building fences, doing armed attacks on areas know to have cane toads, and pouring millions of dollars into edutating people and trying to eradicate them... I'd like to see one just try and get into one of my systems.... :evil: I did have a large frog sitting on my tank last night though.... :D


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I agree with everything you say!

However .. these litlle mongrels will only leave the tank one way!

(Via the barbie!)

However they can be purchased in pet shops over here.

Any exotic species is a risk and will have an impact on our environment!


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InSouth Africa you find them naturally in the river systems - I grew up catching and eating them. They are a great eating fish and they grow realy fast too.
The growth rate is the problem in QLD as they breed at a lower temp and feed faster too, oten destroying the habitat of natural young...
But I would keep them because of their taste and growth rate (if there were not MASSIVE fines for doing so in QLD that is :?


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Anyone seen any Reds or Pinks in WA?


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Haven't seen any, though I know that theres a guy with a business called 'the cichlid man' might be worth checking the yellow or white pages... He has a little work unit over in Spearwood, I can look up the street name if your keen...


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Joel ..

I would appreciate it if you remember and have time.

I am hoping that my little guys will be ready to breed soon.

I know that mules (sterile crosses) and crosses with olthers such as nile tilapia that can often produce pinks and reds, sometimes only males.. ... I was wondering if there was such a thing as a red or pink pure breeding mossambique variety?


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It's on Barrington road in spearwood. If you head westward on barrington he is on the left hand side in a set of industrial units just before you get to the railway. I wasn't able to find him in the white or yellow pages with an online search, but...... Found him in quokka online....... I love google.... :D

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CICHLIDMAN AQUARIUM & TROPICAL FISH Open M-F 5.30pm - 8pm, Sat 10am - 8pm Sun 10am - 5pm U3/125 Barrington St, Bib.Lake 0400 267 274


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hi
i ate tilapia when i was in florida. they where everywhere. the crazy golf course had them in the water trap. the reds are sold here (dead )at tesco,s imported from jamaica.
we have one uk tilapia farm. they import fry from the us that are produced all male.
i believe there are many strains some even tolerant of seawater.
we get them here in petstores in natural and gold.

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i think we had some lifers in stirling prison working on ther eaquaculture possibilities years ago


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Re : pros and cons of tilapia
Hey all,
Have been away for a while doing my PDC and now am a certified 'permie' designer! ( and of course I included a beautiful 10,000 litre aquaponics set up in my assessable design). Dont think I'll be designing any broadacre systems soon - but fired up more than ever to use aquaponics to help me survive the inevitable peak oil crisis and become a true blue urban farmer.
Please correct me if i'm wrong but as far as i know its very hard to breed our own native species in a home set up such as silver perch etc and thus having to buy the fingerlings and the fuel costs for freighting them mean they are not particularly cheap or sustainable for home food production. I'd love to here otherwise of ofcourse as I would much prefer silver perch to tilapia for all the environmental reasons and their much higher levels of omega 3 BUT those tilapia seem to be a solution as far as them eating most anything and breeding so easily in capitivity.
I have heard they are legal in NSW if kept in a home aquarium - anyone know where I can get some in Sydney? Should i just ask at the local aquarium shop or will they shoo me away for being dodgey?
Appreciate your advice ( and inevitable chiding i guess)
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