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I don't imply any acceptance of such Cyara... merely expressing the point that the act you quote is "unremarkable"....

Both in the expression of it's intent... which doesn't surprise me at all in light of recent history...

And in terms of the content.... both are not new... even if perhaps enacted less legitimately and covertly in the past....

And "martial law" has been around and invoked for centuries....

Aaah! And so concern that many are expressing about the coaching of Pastors and business owners to manage dissident people during Martial Law is therefore of no consequence?

Fema camps are of little concern.... because the legislation that enables there use as concentration camps fails to impress you as to its importance?

You obviously didn't watch all the videos Rupe.

There seem to be 2 kinds of postings here on this forum.... those kinds that desire to share something meaningful...... and those that trail such postings to merely rip them apart. A pattern starts forming over time. The latter kind quickly grows old...

thats a yellow card

We did not decend from Apes- after all they're still with us, at best I guess they could be called cousins. According to Intelligent Design vs. Darwin's Evolution, our oldest ancestors were probably either archaea or bacteria as the first life form from primordial ooze. So, scientically speaking, you are lower than a worm and lower than an amoeba. See, now no one has to be offended they came from apes.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/predictions.html
Hit the "Launch Interactive" and scroll to DARWIN'S PREDICTIONS 8 of 13.
Scientists comparing the genomes of members of the three domains of life—archaea, bacteria, and the eukaryotes (animals, plants, fungi, and protists)—have discovered about 500 genes that all living things share. These "immortal" genes have survived essentially unchanged for over two billion years (including the portion of a protein's sequence seen here, with shared amino acids indicated by shading). Says Brown's Ken Miller: "Despite the extraordinary diversity of life, all living organisms share a nearly identical set of essential genes, reflecting their evolutionary development from a common ancestor."
Primodial Soup link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life

Technically, this still doesn't dispute God, as God is said to have molded man out of clay and breathed life into him. I'm sure all other life was created in a similar fashion. Personally, I like this idea better than coming from sludge but I guess that is a matter of personal opinion.

Groan... to repeat myself Cyara... and to make it CRYSTAL CLEAR...

Yes I think the Fema provisions ARE outrageous... as are many of the acts legislated in many countries around the world over the last decade....

And yes I think that it is TOTALLY outrageous that the "church" could involve itself in such duplicity....

But AM I SURPRISED..... NO......

And it ISN'T ANYTHING NEW........

Now which part of my viewpoint and response is still unclear????

I am just as outraged at the concept that law enforcement can utilise "ultrasonic" and "microwave" devices on citizens protesting.... and the use of electro-shock devices such as Taszas....

It is all part of the quasi neo-nazi insidiousness that has pervaded the halls of political, military, legal, media and religious power over the last 20-30 years...

And the "meek" should as hell wont put an end to it..... in fact they'll probably be herded into railway carriages and dispatched to the FEMA centres....

But Rupe you made yourself perfectly clear! The groan was a nice touch.

Let me - very patiently - explain myself to you again.....You have shown yourself completely disinterested in the threat to the American people..... so dramatically demonstrated this time too! Rupert - living in Oz - considers all that is happening as old hat and worthy of disrespect. America... sleep in peace.... Rupert says so. In fact he finds it cause for levity....
If able to post something worth considering..... YOUR solution to such monstrous threat instead of criticising everyone else for not doing something .... then we would have a debate. Not interested enough in bringing it to anyone's attention you must have some fun ripping into someone who does. Again... more attitude than content.....and the lack of substance is giving rise to boredom with so much attitude.

The only interest I have derived so far is that the one who proclaims his belief that "... when man totally accepts that all mankind is created equal, has the right to equal opportunity and respect........Then and only then will injustice and hatred wane... and it will be proportional to the level of hippocracy preached by nations, corporations, false leaders and usurers...." seems unable to demonstrate the respect he speaks of. All nations, corporations, false leaders and userers are hypocritical... but such a simple requirement from him he believes leaves him beyond the list. True irony.

Truth will always shake loose of garbage. Some love truth. Some hate it. Some couldn't care. And the difference is easily seen over time. When platitudes on "respect" and "equality" are soon lost in a standard attitude of derogatory scorn then the scorner will merely reap what he sows. Scorn. The real joy seems merely to be in generating strife. Waste of time. Except that when it becomes the predictable response it gives rise to the question: What's eating him up so bad?

I thought the point Rupert had made is that none of those things are new. It has been going on for decades, in fact centuries. So, why should people suddenly now be afraid, and be preparing, and be shocked.

I've been following this thread pretty much from the start and read almost every link, though I didn't sit and listen to all of those youtube links, but I must say, I'm really confused exactly what we are supposed to be scared of here. Could you please explain in a few simple sentences what you consider the threat to be, Cyara?

Perhaps it's because this thread has gone off on so many tangents...

Double GROAN... you are beginning to resemble some other people in your arguments Cyara... cherrypicking what you believe to prove your point...

Yet in fact ignoring the entire point of what I said.... I even AGREED WITH YOU...




How pitifully you attempt to smear different meaning upon something.... it was neither intended as "levity" or as a "solution" to the "threat"...

Exactly the opposite... although perhaps not clearly and simply stated enough ...(obviously )... it was indeed a "call to arms".... a suggestion.... that unless action is taken by people.... the result will be disastorous....

That "meekness".... subservient acquiescence to either state or church authority is DEFINITELY NOT the path that people should adopt in the face of such threats....

Indeed if you have/had ever read any of my other postings regarding the recently past governments both here in Australia, and in the US.... and for that matter other countries...

And my thoughts regarding globilised control of economies and media.....

Then you would/should know Cyara... that my views have been consistant throughout the time I have been posting on this forum....

And that most certainly... a suggestion that the "trend" in foreign policy, the anti-democratic legislation and general stripping away of rights of citizenship.... WILL NOT, AND CAN NOT be resisted by "meekness".....


Read my many other posts...


And the rest is just pathetic personalisation Cyara... and has diminished any respect that I had for you....

You have the right to believe in whatever you choose Cyara... as does anyone...

I choose not to live in your fantasy world... nor to sit quietly in the face of the rise of neo-conservatism and neo-naziism...... certainly not by waiting for some god" to provide some "enlightenment"... or to right the situation.... or by letting it run it's course and then offering "redemption" to those that sat there doing nothing ... in the belief that he would do so....

This thread is gunna be shut down soon if people don't watch their tone.. I've already had to delete a couple of posts in the last 48 hours, lets keep it nice please people...

Indeed, perhaps it should be EB....

+1
its all mental masturbation anyway and god is getting mad

In short, are you insinuating that the world is heading toward the rapture, a concept invented 170 years ago?

http://www.askthepriest.org/askthepries ... pture.html

I think we are safe until the overlords come back for us.

I have only now seen your post EB.

I had understood Rupert's posts very differently, but regardless of intention I regret the wrangling and wish to apologise for my part in any unpleasantness. I have no wish to be at odds with Rupe and so want to say sorry for any personal attack he feels. Some things are more important than trying to be clever as I shoot from the hip. Definitely not clever anyway. Sorry Rupe. Please understand that I really mean it.

The things that are coming are frightening. Frightening because world freedoms are being removed step by step.... starting with America. I understand clearly that not everyone sees things through Biblical prophecy as I do. Perfectly within each person's right of choice. But I suggest that the signs politically and economically are enough to search out what could be shaping.

All I wanted to bring to anyone who was interested's notice was how the net is tightening. Perhaps just listen to the videos on Fema camps by Alex Jones that I posted. Start with the second video if you want to get into what he is saying quickly. He explains it so much better than I could. If this is just a lot of hot air EB then what have we lost? If not ....I feel such a sense of urgency to help people prepare. This legislation authorising fema camps is as recent as January 27 2009. Add to this the coaching of business owners and sell-out pastors to control dissident members of the public. I have listened to one of the most decorated policemen who later became one of the most fired policemen in the force explain how the young police recruits are coached into accepting that the public is the enemy and only a fellow officer is to be trusted. That they will be called on to do things that they will not like doing but it is all for the general good of law and order. Even lying in case files when requested to. Worth a bit of personal research. Infragard - business owners vetted by FBI before joining - have the right to kill in the event of Martial Law. Why is the American public being so coached toward Martial Law? Why on such a massive scale? That is new. How easy would it be to institute Martial Law? Just another terrorist attack on the scale of 9/11 would do it. Why are the rights of individual farmer's being stripped away? On the Fema Pastors videos the guy speaks of neighbours being coached to report on neighbours. It sounds horribly like the beginnings of a police state. There is a guy Hilmar Von Campe who has written a book called "Defeating the Totalitarian Lie". He is a Hitler Youth speaking out. He lives in America now and is recognising too many things like he witnessed in Germany as a youngster. Here is a link to acquire his book and also where he is being interviewed.

Oooops! Forgot the book link.... http://www.voncampe.com/defeating_totalitarian.html