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 Post subject: Re: fresh water Mussels
PostPosted: Nov 30th, '08, 08:23 
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Uncle Neil from Aquablue has written on his site that they were Chewy and told me this in an Email, but like you I didn't find that either, taste on the plain ones was not as strong as the Salty's but as you've mentioned the chilli sauce works a treat. We may have to start the a TV show "Cooking with Nocky & Yarra" :twisted: man everyone else has a cooking show :lol:
After the Australia Post Air Express :x stuff up, we lost about 80 out of 240 so to the WA guys I would use a Courier like Startrack or Courier Australia, phone and get a quote first, you will find that it will be cheaper than Aust Post :x anyhow. If you get Aquablue to send Thursday you should get Monday, this would be a good time frame for survival. My first lot I got in June (I think, Winter anyway) and none died at all but did use startrack and also cooler weather


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 Post subject: Re: fresh water Mussels
PostPosted: Nov 30th, '08, 10:01 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Uncle Neil from Aquablue has written on his site that they were Chewy and told me this in an Email, but like you I didn't find that either, taste on the plain ones was not as strong as the Salty's but as you've mentioned the chilli sauce works a treat. We may have to start the a TV show "Cooking with Nocky & Yarra" :twisted: man everyone else has a cooking show :lol:
After the Australia Post Air Express :x stuff up, we lost about 80 out of 240 so to the WA guys I would use a Courier like Startrack or Courier Australia, phone and get a quote first, you will find that it will be cheaper than Aust Post :x anyhow. If you get Aquablue to send Thursday you should get Monday, this would be a good time frame for survival. My first lot I got in June (I think, Winter anyway) and none died at all but did use startrack and also cooler weather


Hmm Startrack would not deliver something for my Company (well not mine the one I work for) because we didn't have a contract :-( Once off shipments were too much trouble for them to want to do, or so they told me. TNT did once off shipments though... wasn't terribly cheap, but Aust post wouldn't ship our package, this one was too large :-(

Also... perhaps some1 should write to Neil, and tell him he's doing himself a disservice, saying that they taste crap... perhaps offer to trade him a recipe for a bigger discount on your next shipment?


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PostPosted: Nov 30th, '08, 11:08 
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Aquablue paid Startrack for the freight and I paid Aquablue. They got here in two days.


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PostPosted: Nov 30th, '08, 11:55 
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Kuda, I get things from various places for work, with startrack you just have to phone up and ask for a rate from where ever, if you don't ask for a rate then they sting you big time. Cost me $60 for 200 last time, delivery 4 days to 200km out of Perth which I thought was excellent value and time, Neil Paid for Aussie Post Air it was more than I paid him freight but he wasn't confident in getting them in time by Road, as is documented before road would have been quicker than Aust Posts Bi Plane :evil:
As Neil has told me in an email he doesn't particularly like Mussels anyhow, so to him they were chewy and didn't like the taste, but will pass on to him that the expert eaters reckon they are ok
Jaymie that was a good turn around, but you are almost next door in comparison :bigsmurf:
But Neil is extra helpful and is giving me a $60 credit for our next order :cheers:


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try pack'n'send used them a few times and are quite fast 1300668000 and they do once off orders


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PostPosted: Jan 20th, '09, 17:22 
Neil at Aquablue Seafoods currently has 800+ mussels harvested and in stock....

Get them while you can... wont be another batch for several months... :wink:


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Neil at Aquablue Seafoods currently has 800+ mussels harvested and in stock....

Get them while you can... wont be another batch for several months... :wink:


lol..............arent kickbacks gr8 rope lol ;)


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Paid cold hard cash for mine Bundy... :geek: :wink:


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Paid cold hard cash for mine Bundy... :geek: :wink:

lol ;).........but for the next lot?


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PostPosted: Jan 20th, '09, 18:22 
I'd expect to pay exactly the same as I paid for this lot ... :mrgreen:


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I bought four dozen mussels off ebay from a guy in Florida, USA. Cost and shipping were reasonable. I put a dozen in each fish tank and two dozen in the pond. The tanks are somewhat cleaner after a month, but see no difference in the pond....still green. In the IBC I can see trails where they traveled to get near the bottom suction. Now they are clustered around the perferated pipe. Currently only have goldfish in tanks but the older, larger ones are in he IBC. Perhaps the 6" goldies will serve as host for mussel fry. Will report any results.


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PostPosted: Mar 1st, '09, 07:24 
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I am also a member on the Rainbowfish.info forum site [well worth it if, like me, you are into Aussie Nat Species of Rabws or Gudgeons etc.] and asked for their opinion of keeping local gudgeon species as suitable FT species.

This system was also going to house abbies and Freshwater Mussels.

Adrian Tappin - Someone who is right in the know about Aussie Native species sent me this reply to one of my posts and I thought I should share with you.

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Its funny you should mention freshwater mussels. They were mentioned on the ANGFA forum only a few days ago?

I would forget about the mussels as the larvae are parasitic on the fins, gills or general body surface of freshwater fish. Here they encyst and become covered by fish tissue. The parasitic stage may last from days to months, after which the mussel drops off and settles as a young adult.

This may not be a problem in the wild, but in the confines of an aquarium or "aquaponic" setup it could be fatal for some species if the infestation is severe, especially if it is in the gills of fish?

The ecology of some species has been studied by Walker (1981), with additional in formation from Smith (1996).

Smith, B.J. (1996) Identification keys to the Families and Genera of Bivalve and Gastropod Molluscs found in Australian Inland Waters . Cooperative Research Centre for Freshwater Ecology Identification Guide No. 6., Albury, NSW.

Walker, K.F. (1981) Ecology of freshwater mussels in the River Murray. Australian Water Resources Council Technical Paper 63 : 1-119.

Most of the 29 known species of freshwater mussels in the Australian Region (Australia, New Guinea, the Solomon Islands and New Zealand) are members of the Hyriidae, a family shared with South America and distantly related to the unionid mussels of other continents.

The four freshwater bivalve families in Australia are:
Hyriidae (Freshwater mussels) A family restricted to South America and Australasia. Found throughout mainland Australia and central-north Tasmania, absent from southern Tasmania. Some species are endemic to particular catchments whilst others are cosmopolitan. The first larval stage is the minute, bivalved glochidium, ectoparasitic on the gills, fins, or general body surface of various fish.

Family: Corbiculidae
Corbiculidae (Orb-shell mussels) Found in Asia, Australia and Oceania, with isolated introductions in other parts of the world. A tropical to subtropical group. There are two distinct species groups in Australia. The first (genera Batissa and Polymesoda) inhabit fresh and estuarine coastal streams of northern Australia, and are closely related to forms found in south-east Asia. The second (genus Corbicula, endemic subgenus Corbiculina) are found throughout Australia except for Tasmania and the southern part of Western Australia.

Family: Sphaeriidae
Sphaeriidae (Pea shell mussels, pea shells, fingernail clams) A little studied but cosmopolitan family of small bivalves. Previously, many names were based on minute differences in the shell and on geographic distribution. Some species are widespread throughout Australia but others are confined to small regions or in some cases to a single body of water.

Family: Mytilidae
Mytilidae (Mussels) The cosmopolitan family which includes the marine mussels. Several species are estuarine and some may be found in near-fresh water, but never entirely away from marine influence.

Identification
Identification to family can be based on the shell. The Hydriidae and Mytilidae are elongate mussels with the beak of the shell at one end. Corbiculidae and Sphaeriidae are sub-circular.


Just on the aquaponic setup - I guess you would monitor the nutrient levels?

Adrian


Does one have any further details about this particular problem? :|


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PostPosted: Mar 1st, '09, 07:29 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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It is not currently recognised as a problem, but the life cycle of a mussel has been discussed at length.
I don't think we've had them long enough. We've certainly never heard of it being a known danger to fish.
Most discussion has been on the ability for mussels to reproduce, as it is believed that some mussels require certain species of fish to act as host.


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PostPosted: Mar 1st, '09, 07:32 
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KudaPucat wrote:
It is not currently recognised as a problem, but the life cycle of a mussel has been discussed at length.
I don't think we've had them long enough. We've certainly never heard of it being a known danger to fish.
Most discussion has been on the ability for mussels to reproduce, as it is believed that some mussels require certain species of fish to act as host.


I wasn't aware of this fact either Kuda, hey that what this life is all about, find new facts and details in our relevant interest and hobbies :lol:

Have no fear though, I shall keep folks posted should the thread get interesting :wink:


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PostPosted: Mar 1st, '09, 07:37 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Sure, just cos it's not recognised, doesn't mean it isn't...


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