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PostPosted: Jan 7th, '09, 20:31 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Not that it's entirely related, but the link here where Lindseys book is available to read for free : http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis-ch1.html

Also has some very interesting information about how the earth is stationary and the sun revolves around it. This is certainly something I would question... :shock: :geek:

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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Me too. Question it. Who cares. Irrelevant.

The book is offered on many sites....
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/envi ... rgy/1.html.
http://byronw.www1host.com/files/williams.pdf
http://www.whale.to/b/williams_b.html
http://extratorrent.com/torrent/1248888 ... oil+crisis)+(1980)+pdf.html
http://www.dirtcheapbuilder.com/refrenno.html
http://endtimehappenings.blogspot.com/2 ... ndsey.html
......etc

Going to find something wrong on them all EB? :D
Know he must be making a ton of money handing it out so liberally.....

Have to wonder what makes him do it................
Maybe it's the fame and the death threats to him and his family. :roll:
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From......http://peswiki.com/index.php/Site:LRP:T ... Non-Crisis

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According to Lindsay Williams, the author of The Non-Energy Crisis, our energy problems are a deliberate policy of The World Bank and The International Monetary Fund. Speaking as an eye-witness, he states that there is a deliberate policy of lowering the standard of living of all United States citizens, by raising the price of oil/gas to $5.00 per gallon, and that this then becomes a hidden tax that is then transferred to other nations via the World Bank. [View the videos]. Oil has become a weapon of equalizing the masses globally, and the elimination of the ‘middle’ classes everywhere. *

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Sorry to hijack your thread but this Bush thing is getting wierder and wierder.
I've been working on a time-line and I think I've cracked it. All of this is easy to find on the web from reliable sources.
2000- Sun Myung Moon purchases huge land tract in Paraguay- over 300,000 hectares, 738,000 acres
2001- tourture of prisioners and detainees
2002- objections from all four military services- navy, army, airforce, marines
Jan. 2004- After inspections of military prisions, ICRC creates a 24 page report in regards to prisioner abuse in violation of the Geneva Convention. http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm
ICRC investigations showed “a pattern, a broad system” rather than “isolated acts of individual members of the coalition forces.”
Feb. 2004- Report is presented to U.S. authorities but report has not been made fully public, even to date. The organization delivers its confidential reports directly to governments that run the prisons, however, and they rarely reach the public. ICRC officials said they were unhappy that details of their reports had leaked to the pess.
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/may/08 ... -redcross8
2004- Pressure begins on nations to sign Article 98- exemption of U.S. citizens from ICC prosecution- international war crimes. Please note that it states U.S. citizens, not just military personal. http://www.state.gov/t/pm/art98/
Oct. 2004- Bush administration suspends aid to nations who refused to shield americans against war crimes
May/June 2005- Paraguay grants immunity to U.S. citizens. The legislature is due to expire in December 2006, but is automatically extendable.
July 2005- Rumsfield visits Paraguay- rumors of push for permanent military base
August 2005-Paraguay expropriated approximately 129,000 acres of land owned by Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church purportedly for distribution to local farmers. The government held that the land was not in productive use. Since then, Victoria, S.A., the company owned by the Unification Church, has not had access to the property. As of August, the land had not been redistributed to local farmers, but company property on the lot had been stolen. Victoria, S.A., offered more than 24,000 acres to avoid expropriation, and congress was considering the offer.
2006- Bush purchases land in Paraguay, roughly 98,840 acres Although official sources have not confirmed the information that is already public, the land is reportedly located in Paso de Patria, near Bolivian gas reserves and the Guarani indigenous water region, within the Triple Border. Alto Paraguay Gov. Erasmo Rodriguez Acosta revealed he heard that part of the land purchase consists of an ecological reserve (Fundacion Patria), with which Bush is affiliated. http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID={2DA7BAE4-061B-49B6-983F-3D69A4396E37})&language=EN
Oct 2006- Jenna Bush arrives in Paraguay with UNICEF but also Jenna Bush paid a diplomatic visit to Paraguayan President Nicanor Duarte and U.S. Ambassador James Cason
May 2007- the Supreme Court ruled the government's expropriation unconstitutional. On August 10, Congress and the Unification Church agreed to a donation of 74,130 acres for distribution to local farmers. Thereafter, the church had access to its remaining landholdings.
May. 9, 2007-CIUDAD DEL ESTE, Paraguay - The Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia has taken root in South America, From its Western base in a remote region divided by the borders of Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina known as the Tri-border, or the Triple Frontier. Where have I heard that description before? Oh yea, Bush's land purchase- see above. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/
Feb 2008- Neil Bush, the younger brother of US President George W. Bush, and a delegation from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Family Federation for World Peace see Paraguay's president. Neil Bush later went to the Senate to take part in an international seminar, "New Leadership Paradigms in Latin America and the Caribbean at a Time of Crisis on the Global Level," organized by the federation. Neil Bush was the poster boy for the $500 billion U.S. savings and loan debacle during the 1988-1992 presidency of his father, George H.W. Bush.
Apr 21, 2008 ... Guns seized in Paraguay were destined for criminal gangs in Sao Paulo. Drug-trafficking and gun-running are also associated with the region.There have also been persistent allegations from the US authorities that Lebanese businessmen based in the region are responsible for channelling large sums of money to armed groups in the Middle East such as Hezbollah.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7358214.stm
Question- if this area is so bad with gun runners, drug smugglers, and terroists, why would Bush buy land and send family members down here? Obviously there is a build up in military force, some liken it to the the rhetoric that precurored the military base built in Equcador but it could also be used to protect an ex-president who is trying to avoid war crimes.
Apparently, I'm not the only one who has come to this conclusion.
http://www.cco.net/~trufax/general/bush ... ay_up.html
Why might the president and his family need a 98,840-acre ranch in Paraguay protected by a semi-secret U.S. military base manned by American troops who have been exempted from war-crimes prosecution by the Paraguyan government?


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Whew! :shock:

Plot thickens. Very interesting. Seems to fit the emerging pattern. You think the people would charge him with war crimes? Need the right political climate to give that ground fast enough and Obama seems no different to me. He seems to be set to destroy the middle class voice too with even more stringent controls being spoken of... And less accountability of a President to the people than ever before. A man very clever with words - who gets people to vote away their freedoms with euphoria! More dangerous even than Bush in my opinion. And that is saying something!!! I am constantly watching what Obama asks for. He seems to desperately want to be the hero of the hour but has made some very strange requests so far. He would trouble me greatly as a president in this current climate. I was shocked to hear Lindsey Williams was told by one member of the "Elite" that John McCain was his man.... misinformation? Or the "Elite" didn't get what they wanted? Obama had double the funds of McCain and only came in at 52%. The stories that we never hear!!!!!

Nice research job Angie.

Check this out.....Specific energy invention suppression cases
http://storage.testpad.net/byronwine/fi ... 0paper.pdf

Make oil the only real currency of value by ensuring all alternate energy other than oil is scuppered.....and make sure control maintained on such oil reserves.........

We have this kind of govt motivation over nuclear power here being set against all other alternate energy. Nuclear power must be bought. Alternate is "free" The PBMR ( Pebble Bed Modular Reactor) is what Eskom wants.... Have one not too far from me. :( We joke that we are close enough not to know what happened! :D
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Pebble Bed Reactor Technology

PBMR Development

The Pebble Bed Modular Reactor (PBMR) is a new type of high temperature helium gas-cooled nuclear reactor, which builds and advances on world-wide nuclear operators' experience of older reactor designs. The most remarkable feature of these reactors is that they use attributes inherent in and natural to the processes of nuclear energy generation to enhance safety features.

It is also a practical and cost-effective solution to most of the logistics of generating electricity, with particular reference to South Africa today.
http://www.eskom.co.za/nuclear_energy/pebble_bed/pebble_bed.html

Must admit with Eskom (govt owned power supply across the country) failing miserably in its power delivery in 2008... to the degree that it serriously affected commerce... there seems to have been a loosening of controls. Harmony Gold- just one of our gold mines - was forced into closure time and again and lost in the order of ZAR 60 million per day. Miners cannot be sent down in the face of an impending shut-down. Methane buildup alone will kill them if ventilators not maintained in operation.

Mining is vital to our economy....
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South Africa's wealth has been built on the country's vast resources - nearly 90% of the platinum metals on Earth, 80% of the manganese, 73% of the chrome, 45% of the vanadium and 41% of the gold. Only crude oil and bauxite are not found here.
http://www.southafrica.info/business/ec ... mining.htm

We have no crude oil but have turned coal which we have in abundance into fuel ..... Sasol..... and sold at the pumps. Glad this has been done....but believe it is really a global village and what starts in the States will be planned globally. The Bible speaks of a one world government. Never thought when I first heard of it that it could be in my lifetime.


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Read this article first - to understand the next one.

Understanding the "Popsicle Index"

To help people understand how the global financial system affects their neighborhood, I came up with a very simple quality of life index based on one question:
�What percentage of the people in your place believes that a child can go to the nearest place to buy a popsicle or other treat, and return home alone safely?�
Your answer gives you the Popsicle Index or Solari Index of your place. The Popsicle Index is the % of people who believe a child can leave their home, go to the nearest place to buy a popsicle or snack, and come home alone safely. For example, if you feel that 50% of your neighbors believe a child in your neighborhood would be safe, then your Popsice Index is 50%. The Solari Index is based on gut level feelings of the people who have intimate knowledge of a place, rather than facts and figures.

The real purpose of the Popsicle Index is to start a conversation in every neighborhood and village on earth about what it means to feel safe and secure where you live and work and the people and things that contribute or drain that feeling.

Maybe passersby can be trusted to leave the child alone, but they drive like maniacs through your neighborhood. Maybe the child would be safe, but the parents are concerned about about their child being adversely affected by all the junk food marketed to young kids, or by the older kids hanging around the store. Maybe the family is too poor for the child to have the freedom to go buy a treat. Maybe the child will be perfectly safe going to the market alone, but die of a preventable disease for lack of basic healthcare. Or maybe there is no market nearby, or any jobs either, so everyone commutes to someone else�s neighborhood to work and shop and bank.

This leads to discussion about the job market, job security, unemployment, and how quickly all the money is leaving your neighborhood, the drain of credit card debt as well as what the national debt and state budget cuts are costing, along with dwindling healthcare benefits and retirement security, the fate of local family farms and businesses, natural resources and the local water supply, and generally how hard everyone is working just to make ends meet while expenses are rising faster than income.

As the conversation unfolds, it is clear that the drain we are experiencing is both spiritual and financial -- how we experience a negative return on investment economy that is out of alignment with the well-being of our families, communities, and planet; an economy that is organized around the Dow Jones going up from our Popsicle Index going down.

As the conversation unfolds, friends and neighbors begin to understand what is important to each other and to sense opportunities to help each other feel safer.

Now I ask:
�If the Popsicle Index in your place is less than 100%, what will it take to raise it to 100%? And who is responsible to make that happen?�


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Bye-Bye Bubble

The global financial bubble burst in 2008 — and that's a good thing. It means that the bubble economy will no longer make it attractive to ignore our problems and drain the real economy. Instead of investing our capital in fraudulent mortgage securities, complex derivatives, and companies running black-box Ponzi schemes, perhaps we will see the merits of financing real people crafting real solutions to the problems before us. In 2008, the incentives grew to understand the real world and address real issues.
Alas, like the bubble, the collapse was engineered. The nature of the "pump and dump" financial model on planet earth is that the most powerful people on the planet will make more money on the dump then they did on the pump. In 2008, a strong dollar combined with global drops in commodities and equity prices created more buying opportunities for insiders who exited the bubble in time or enjoyed the largesse of bailouts.
Thousands of bankers and executives who created the bubble were unprepared for the events of 2008. They were left scrambling in a game of global musical chairs. The moral of the story is as old as the hills: there are a lot more people who think they are insiders during the "pump" than during the "dump." The dump is when you find out who is really in and who is out … or who your real friends are.
This cycle will be different. We are not witnessing just another bubble burst as we did in 1988-89. This is a fundamental re-engineering of the governance system — the culmination of a financial coup d'etat. I often quote the story of Clarence Dillon, the head of my old firm, Dillon, Read & Co. Inc., in 1929 at the beginning of the Great Depression:
Driving through New Jersey, Nitze [asked] Dillon if he thought the market decline an omen of hard times ahead . . . Dillon thought for a few minutes and replied, "I think it presages the end of an era." By this Dillon meant that what lay ahead was not merely a period of retrenchment, after which affairs would be conducted as before. Rather, the world was in for a major overhauling of institutions.
—Clarence Dillon and Paul Nitze in 1929
We are not at the end of history. We are, however, at the end of the notion that the people in control want anything less than total control of everything.
How do we integrate powerful new technology in a manner that is human and civilized? How do we address population growth and align our economy and lifestyles with the health of our natural environment? How do we create and sustain communities in the face of invisible powers? Is a war economy the only kind of economy we can imagine?
The urgency of these conversations will grow as the bubble evaporates.
Where's the Money?

The big question of 2008 is "Where is the money? " It just keeps disappearing. There was $4 trillion plus that disappeared from the U.S. government between 1998 and 2002 along with trillions more from the pump-and-dump of the Internet and telecom stocks, the Enron debacle, and other financial frauds. Since then and into 2008, funds keep disappearing into the Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns.
Now we have $700 billion in bailouts and $7 trillion plus in loans by the Fed, not to mention the $5 trillion in mortgage market liabilities assumed by the Federal government with the passage of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008. The fraud in the U.S. mortgage bubble was clearly enormous. But, where did all the money go? Who's financial appetites demand this much money and what, if anything, will ever satisfy them?
This of course leads us back to "Cui Bono? " – "Who benefits?" And this, in turn, leads us to wonder who is really at the top of this pyramid scheme. What is the end- game for global governance?
Dollar Up, Gold Down

To recapitalize the U.S. banking system, it was necessary to have the dollar up and gold down in 2008. Sure enough, this is what happened — although by the end of the year, the dollar was up 5% and gold was up 4%.
The ability of the "plunge protection team" (formally known as the President's Working Group on Financial Markets) and their agents to intervene in markets and suppress the gold price continued to surprise knowledgeable commentators.
We still do not adequately understand how the "management" of markets is engineered. Put this on a list of mysteries it would be wonderful to solve in 2009.
Interestingly, by year-end the precious metals market was tracking both the London spot price and premiums paid for gold coins on E-Bay, as the paper market and the physical market diverged.



The Slow Burn

The global financial meltdown that some market pundits predicted hasn't happened. Instead, the "Slow Burn" continues albeit at a more rapid, scarier pace. Still, investor losses have been significant. After quite a run-up, the commodities markets crashed, the Dow dropped by 34% and global stock markets were down across the board. Financial institutions throughout Europe and Asia were hammered by losses and fraud in the U.S. mortgage and derivatives markets.
The division grew sharply between those with access to cash, credits and bailouts and the growing number of people losing businesses, jobs, savings, homes, health and lives. The division had little to do with talent or productivity. The personal pain is great and will grow greater. It is made greater by the realization of betrayal by political leaders, the mass media and communities.
The amount of human talent being drained and destroyed throughout North America and around the globe is incalculable. Supporting rather than destroying this talent remains our greatest opportunity (it is an invisible opportunity). It calls for a financial system which can generate profit from the education and well-being of families and communities and the reduction of wasteful consumption.

The Freezing Up of the Global Banking System

As financial losses grew throughout 2008, an outbreak of healthy distrust resulted in the freezing up of the global banking system. This is the evidence of markets working — not, as reported, of markets failing. Banks do not trust each other or their accountants or their lawyers for a very good reason: who can price an asset when the parties may be lying and regulators and courts will not uphold the law?
The Pension Fund Time Bomb

Because pension funds are not leveraged, reports on pension fund losses have been relatively quiet. Look for reports regarding pension fund performance to have a profound impact in 2009.
Unfunded pension liabilities will hit hard on state and local government. Indeed, municipalities are getting hit on all sides as tax revenues fall with dropping real estate values and the cost of capital rises.
The dependency of state and local governments on the central government is not widely recognized. Real trouble with the U.S. dollar, the integrity of tax systems, or the federal credit in 2009 could spell serious hardship for local governments, leaving the economy even more dependent on bailouts and military spending as the infrastructure of control grows.
The $1 Billion Candidate

The American elections captured a great deal of attention this year, with the victorious candidate, Barack Obama, raising nearly $1 billion. As the American economy centralizes with companies, states and municipalities, universities, health care and all aspects of life becoming increasingly dependent on the federal budget, the business of buying the White House and congressional seats becomes ever more expensive. We are not just electing representatives — we are electing the "managers" of markets, including an ever-growing percentage of private income and profits.
While some say President-Elect Obama is the face of hope and some say he is the face of the Rockefellers, I say he is a Harvard lawyer turned politician who is a prisoner of the red-button problem, just as we all are. So far, his economic team includes the original engineers of the strong dollar policy and its component parts: the housing bubble and the gold suppression scheme. Let's face it. If engineering a financial coup d'etat is the goal, these guys are the victors.
Obama has announced a massive infrastructure program. Infrastructure is potentially better for the economy than housing bubbles. The devil, however, is in the details. The scariest idea? A centralized medical-records database. We will talk about this more in 2009.
Given the state of the economy and the intelligence of the Obama team, it should be possible to manage the program design and the contracting of a massive government investment such that the infrastructure created is cost competitive and creates net value in the economy, including contributing to, rather than destroying, the value of labor and communities.
So let's see what comes out of the other side of the Washington sausage-maker after the inauguration. My expectations are minimal, yet I am willing to be surprised. This is, after all, the seasons of miracles and the system is full of decent people who would like to see things work and are willing to work hard to make it so.
Russia, China, and the Middle East Rising

Of the many challenges facing the new Administration next year, none will be more pressing than managing rising power-bases and younger populations throughout the Middle East, China, and Russia. Perhaps the implosion of the commodities markets will ease this process, but our bet is that the shift from a financial bubble to a world of rising tangible asset values will continue.
The Anglo-American alliance "stuck" the world with massive losses from financial fraud. Now we are taking advantage of these losses by enjoying another global buying opportunity. In the process, we have vastly increased the incentives for world-wide competitors to collaborate in protecting themselves from us. Mr. Putin has said so publicly and one of his advisors reiterated this to me privately in chilling detail.
The Internet Inspires

Throughout 2008, the Internet provided an alternative to the continuing censorship of numerous stories that we need to know. These included not just stories that impact our finances but which concern manipulations harmful to our health including chemtrails, efforts to control food and seed supplies, and the ongoing suppression of new energy technologies. Watch for the failure of traditional media in 2009 due to a loss of market share to the Internet. Go, Wikileaks!
The Good News

One of the few good investment categories in 2008 was building personal and local self-sufficiency.
From the success of the Financial Permaculture conference in Hohenwald, Tennessee, to the spread of Transition Towns from the UK, participatory budgeting from Latin America, and community currency and barter systems around the globe, efforts by entrepreneurs and communities to re-localize and network are encouraging.
The logical response to uneconomic centralization is to look for ways to decentralize. Despite all the difficulties in the economy, entrepreneurs doing and teaching natural home building, farmers markets, starting farms, installing solar energy and weatherizing homes enjoyed a market moving their way. These efforts will continue to grow well beyond any shakeout, particularly if commodity prices head north again.
The great mystery is, what will be unleashed as the awakening continues in the face of continued reports of institutional corruption and failures? We think this awakening will have a very positive impact spiritually, culturally and economically in 2009.
The Shakeout Moves into 2009

We have started to hear that the shakeout in financial markets is over and that it is now a good time to invest in the stock market. Don't believe it. The shakeout in the U.S. is far from over. A great deal has been "held together" through the election and the inauguration.
Numerous companies and investors have disclosure obligations in the form of annual reports due in March. Many corporate taxes are due in March and individual taxes are due in April. Let's see what emerges during the disclosure and tax period and how the housing market responds in the spring and summer.
If we are lucky, Washington will produce real plans for real infrastructure investment that will have a positive total economic return. If luck is not with us, Obama will play Pharaoh presiding over the allocation of rigged profits financed with inflation and force. The real economy will continue to die as productive enterprises are starved of capital simply because they are not politically connected.
Can diverse networks of citizens switch their remaining capital in time to protect the productive enterprises that generate jobs and wealth and offer real solutions? We hope and pray that we can.
Our prediction? If you thought 2008 was wild, hold on to your seats— we ain't seen nothing yet.
Plenty of Opportunities

In my audio seminar, Positioning Your Assets for Growth in Uncertain Times, I identified eight areas of opportunity. Here is a recap of how these areas performed in 2008 and some thoughts on what we can expect in 2009.
Opportunity #1: Personal Self- sufficiency

The after tax yields on stockpiling household non- perishables was typically better than money markets in 2008. Investing to reduce your expenses or to build a business that would generate income sure looked better than leaving money in the stock market. Expect the same in 2009.
Opportunity #2: Family, Community, and Network Self-sufficiency

Collaborating with others can be time-consuming and complicated, but the opportunities in this area continue to grow. Expect the trend to continue for the foreseeable future. Big challenge in 2009? How do we find like-minded people who will respect our time and contribution?
Opportunity #3: Banking Intimate

The desire to find a bank one could trust was still overshadowed by the belief that big banks were safer because of massive Fed support. As the appalling behavior of the large banks becomes ever more apparent, let's hope that withdrawing to healthier, local institutions accelerates.
Opportunity #4: Precious Metals

Despite great expectations, gold and silver prices were flat in U.S. dollars for the year. Starting at $840 per oz, the price of gold rose above $1,000 until the Bear Stearns assassination, and then dropped to a low of $700 in October before rising back to the $840 levels before Christmas.
While disappointing for gold bugs, it is worth noting that precious metals performance was strong relative to oil and other commodities and when measured in other currencies, making the case that gold and silver would perform well in a deflation marked by untrustworthy fiat currencies.
Perhaps most notable was the divergence of the spot price from the coin markets, with dealers and E-Bay reporting rising premiums above spot on coin purchases and serious difficulties obtaining inventory. This divergence bears close attention in early 2009.
Despite the "managed" nature of these markets, the outlook is strong for precious metals in 2009.
Opportunity #5: Natural Resources

Commodities had a bad year. Oil down. Agricultural commodities down. Don't be fooled: de-leveraging can bring prices down a lot in a bubble economy. However, we still have 6 billion plus people competing for limited natural resources. Look for natural resources to grow more valuable over the long term.
My bet is that the smart money is taking advantage of the credit crunch and the strong dollar to buy up strategic resources around the globe — farmland, water, oil and gas.
Is this where some of the bubble profits and bailout money is going? To buy up your land at low cost? I believe so.
Opportunity #6: Countries with a Strong Popsicle Index

Place matters. As the yields on sovereign bonds approached 0% this year, it was interesting to watch who approached 0% first. Sure enough, it was typically countries with a strong Popsicle Index combined with a reputation for prudent financial management.
Opportunity #7: Enterprises that own or are excellent at:
• Serving high-Popsicle-Index places
• Precious metals
• Natural resources
• Infrastructure and essential services
• "No waste" new technology/real solutions
Ultimately, equity in enterprises that create real value is the source of much financial wealth. This area will be the greatest opportunity over the next decade. However, it is still early to move into equity. A few exceptions include your own or family companies as well as local and network investment that build up local capacity critical to your strategic needs.
If you have not done so already, start learning about these areas now. However, let the shakeout move through the market before investing. And even then, beware the pump and dump of "green investing" and other potentially fashionable investment trends.
Opportunity #8: Cash and Cash Equivalents in Strong Currencies

Looking for a strong currency in 2008 was like the search for the Holy Grail. If anything, this year proved that there are no strong currencies left. This means that community currencies are looking more and more viable. At the end of the Great Depression, there were more than 3,000 community currencies operating in America. To put that number in perspective, America currently has approximately 3,100 counties and county-equivalents.
The dollar soared, thanks to intervention, a flight to safety, and the rush to pay off dollar debts. For a large part of the year, the dollar was one of the few places to be. This, despite the fact that the St. Louis Federal Reserve reported in November that the aggregate monetary base was growing at an annualized rate of 785% (this is not a typo).
The inter-dependency of the global economy during 2008 seems to say that there is no de-coupling from the U.S. economy and no diversifying from the dollar into other currencies. Other central banks are printing like crazy too. It would appear that the real safety lies in shifting from fiat currencies to precious metals and other tangible things.
That said, we all have expenses and debts in fiat currencies, so we need to hedge. For U.S. citizens, where do we put our cash reserves? With money markets headed toward 0% yields and showing signs of credit problems, insured CD's at strong local banks, credit unions and savings banks still look like a better bet. Paying down debts and lowering overhead continue to be practical ways to lower risk in an uncertain world.
The dollar is headed back down. The question is how slowly or quickly will it fall and how many other currencies will fall with it?
A Word on Philanthropy

If you have money to donate, please shift it into activities that build local food supplies and economic self-sufficiency. There is no better philanthropic opportunity today than local venture capital that creates lasting jobs and skills or the education that supports them.
In Closing

For many years, I was teased about how sentimental a notion the Popsicle Index was. As our sense of personal safety diminishes, perhaps the possibility of living among individuals who care about and lift up the people around them will come back into fashion.
Avoiding and putting as many degrees of separation between you and institutions who do not behave honorably is not pie-in-the-sky ethics. It is dangerous to share your money and your data with people who cannot be trusted. Surely, the events of 2008 underscore this lesson.
Before making your New Year's resolutions, why not sit down and make a list of who and what will cause your Popsicle Index to go up or down. Estimate their contribution mathematically. Now look at how you invest your time. Are you giving time, money and energy to the people and activities that cause your Popsicle Index to go up? Or to those who cause it to go down? Get ruthless about giving energy only to those who return energy to you.
The way to build a new financial system which is supportive of human capital is to start with each person. You are the asset. So let's get your Popsicle Index rising.
—Catherine Austin Fitts
This year-end wrap-up appears in The Solari Report, Catherine Austin Fitts' weekly conference call addressing money, markets, and the many options that people and communities have for taking action. You can learn more about The Solari Report here: http://sol ari.com/store/the_solari_report


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Interesting thoughts:

Seem you blokes down have already tried loca; currency, but the banks sued or something and it was shut down. To bad too as the results were great.


communitycurrency.org wrote:
The economic system is deeply flawed and has served to concentrate money, land and power in the hands of a few. The concentration of economic power and ecological devastation have heralded the collapse of many civilizations and empires. At this time in history, humanity must choose between the health and well-being of our planet, humanity, and other lifeforms, or the further enrichment of the ruling elite. The choice is clear. The World Bank, International Monetary Fund, World Trade Organization, World Economic Forum, and "Trade Agreements," such as the Multilateral Agreement on Investments (MAI) blatantly favor the rich over all environmental and human rights concerns (see http://www.tradewatch.org/). Civil society is now engaged in a tremendous struggle against these deadly institutions which value money over life.

Opposition to the M.A.I., World Bank, the W.T.O. has grown and had some dramatic victories, but the struggle continues.(www.stopftaa.org Exposing Corporate Coup d'Etat -F.T.A.A. Palo Alto Struggle) Besides resisting, more and more people are coming together to create, nurture and share transformative solutions to the deepening crisis we confront. "Another World is Possible" is the theme of this rising global movement.

Understanding how the monetary system works is one step towards creating a system which serves human needs and recognizes the value and importance of the biosphere upon which all our lives depend. The local currency movement hopes to reorganize the global system by creating healthy local communities that recognize and respect their interdependence, and work cooperatively to restore the Earth, recognize the rights and wisdom of indigenous people, and respect the rights of all people -- regardless of class, gender, age, or race.

What is real wealth? Western civilization has confused money with wealth. Most of the world's money is chasing other money in the cyber-casino of the global financial markets oblivious to the devastation being wreaked upon the world's ecosystems and people. While species go extinct, forests are decimated, rivers are poisoned, and people starved, the money is blindly directed towards greater profits destroying the world in the process. The global economy has been shaped by military force, money, greed, fear, and a massive propaganda campaign. Money is a tool of empire, which has served to transfer wealth and power from the many to the few. All monetary systems based upon debt have this fatal dynamic. The ancient religious taboos against usury were well justified, but have been forgotten.

The illusion that money is wealth needs to be shattered. Real wealth is a healthy planet and healthy relationships between all lifeforms; it is inner peace, world peace, balance and harmony in the home, the community, the world. Local currencies are a powerful tool towards raising consciousness, building community, and restructuring our economies in a sustainable direction. Community currencies challenge the system by showing how money is backed by our belief systems.

Money can be created by banks or governments to serve their interests, or it can be created by people in a community to serve their needs. Local currencies help communities to recognize their inner strengths, the gifts of their members, and the value of cooperation. Local currencies inspire people to live in accordance with their values, to follow their inner passion rather than chase after an obsolete notion of "success." They enable people to make a contribution to their community and receive what they need or desire in return. They nurture relationships and demonstrate how local production for local needs benefits the community, as well as reducing the stress upon distant communities who have been forced into near slavery and starvation to provide resources and services to the world's wealthy. Creating community currencies encourages participatory democratic processes and shows how non hierarchical systems empower people, and nurture hope, creativity, respect, and compassion. In a perfect world, money would become obsolete, and the gift economy would flourish.


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How sustainable is that :?: :?:


Zimbabwe releases 100 trillion note
Zimbabwe will introduce a 100 trillion dollar note, in its latest attempt to keep pace with hyperinflation that has left the once-vibrant economy in tatters, state media says.
The new bill would have been worth about $US300 ($A450) at Thursday's exchange rate on the informal market, where most currency trading now takes place, but the value of the local currency erodes dramatically every day.
The Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe is introducing three other notes in trillion-dollar denominations of 10, 20 and 50, the government mouthpiece Herald newspaper said.


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We are watching with horror in South Africa as this all unfolds. One of my best friends here in South Africa was born and raised in Rhodesia...AKA Zimbabwe.

A newsletter I get weekly. Cathy Buckle is writing from Zimabawe.

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Dear Family and Friends,
In the last week everyday things have moved from billions into trillions and
the calculations, conversions and zeroes are again the stuff of nightmares. It
seems that at every turn there is a scam, scheme, fraud or fiddle going on and
you have to proceed with extreme caution to avoid being cheated.

At the beginning of the week one US dollar bought 40 billion Zimbabwe dollars,
by the end of the week that same foreign dollar realized 500 billion Zimbabwe
dollars. Its impossible to keep up and most people have given up trying to
operate in Zimbabwe dollars. In one huge supermarket which does not sell in
foreign currency, the only items on the shelves this week were long life milk
and condoms. In another supermarket nearby the shelves were full of goods but
all were marked in US dollars and they were very expensive - more than most
could afford. You pay in American dollars and the change is given in South
African coins - its a flat, rounded down conversion rate - take it or leave it.
In other shops the tellers don't give any change at all so if you buy something
for 9 US dollars you either leave having lost a dollar or you have to buy
something you don't want that apparently costs a dollar. Its amazing how many
really trashy little sweets have suddenly appeared at check out counters which
cost fifty cents!

With almost everything now being in US dollars, the people suffering the most
are the civil servants because they continue to be paid in Zimbabwe dollars:
teachers, nurses, police, army, telephone, electricity, municipal, post office
and government department workers. Their salaries continue to be paid direct
into banks in Zimbabwe dollars and its almost impossible to get the money out of
the bank or to find anything to buy with their worthless Zim dollars. This
simply reality explains bribery and corruption better than any university
degree.

For some unknown reason our banks are suddenly refusing to allow people to
withdraw their own money out of the bank unless they can provide a pay slip to
prove that they earnt the money legally. This might sound like a simple thing
but for most people its a nightmare as employers no longer have paper or ink to
print pay slips on and the postal service has all but collapsed. Other banks
have adopted a policy of closing accounts which do not have a transaction within
a month - this apparently because the currency is devaluing so fast. There is
nothing in writing, no notice, no explanation, you just suddenly find your bank
account gone - four or five decades of loyal service means nothing, millions,
billions and trillions of dollars is suddenly useless, worthless trash. One
elderly lady I met this week cried as she told me her life savings, including
the money from a car she had recently sold, had devalued by sitting in the bank
for a few months and were now worth 11 Zimbabwe cents.

Another scheme that is causing huge suffering is that of medical aid
(insurance) societies demanding monthly contributions in US dollars but then
refusing to reimburse claims from patients in foreign currency. Worse, they will
now only honour the consultation fees of a handful of doctors and so patients
find themselves stranded: unable to afford to see their own GP's or dentists and
unable to physically get to the medical aid society "approved doctors."

As President Bush leaves power in America this week I can't help wondering how
many scores, hundreds, of world leaders have changed in the 29 years since
Zimbabwe's been controlled by one man, one party. It defies belief. Until next
week, thanks for reading, love cathy cCopyright cathy buckle .17th January 2009
http://www.cathybuckle.com


What a mess.......

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The economic stimulus bill

Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics
professor and says, "I don't understand this
stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?" The professor replied, "I
don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over
to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be
glad to explain it to you." The student agreed.

At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professors house.

The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard
pool. They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed
the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the
professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your
bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was
instructed. The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the
shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it."
The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told.

The professor then explained they were going to do this many more
times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool. The
confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?" The
professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the
shallow end much deeper.

The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but
figured that he would find out the real story soon enough. However,
after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the
student began to become worried that his economics professor had
gone mad.

The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable
time and effort on unproductive pursuits. Even worse, when this
process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was
before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of
what could have been truly productive action!"

The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile,
"Congratulations. You now understand the stimulus bill."


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Interesting analogy Heka :D Does explain the insanity. But it is worse than that. At least the water stays level in the pool.

With the stimulus bill there is lots of waste.

Think of taking a blood transfusion from your left arm to your right arm with lots of spillage on the floor in between. That is Obama's stimulus bill.

America is now 12 trillion in debt. That is ON BUDGET debt.... i.e. admitted debt.... OFF BUDGET...? who knows.

How much is a trillion? Start a business in the days Jesus walked this earth.... and lose $1 million every day until today... in another 700 years you will have lost a trillion. ONE Trillion.... Eleven to go if no Obama and his ilk to increase the debt load.

If Obama could even have managed the status of the Professor's swimming pool he would have done better. But he sure seems to be fooling a lot of people with his slick tongue.


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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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cyara - the 12 trllion is no where near the alread loses of paper money.
That, will be vaporised in seconds... :drunken:
The real debt it the 100trillionUS$ debt the people are in
via debt generated by business and small business :oops:


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