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PostPosted: Jan 5th, '09, 17:45 
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I see that it would limit the amount you can expand.

a sequencer would solve that
have to think out a mechanical one

frank

That might do it. But the overflow to GB's as a backup would be out or at least limited. You could add more FT's and have them connected I guess. But more things that need monitoring. I don't have to check on my system very often. As long as I hear running water and my feet aren't wet when I walk past everything is running smooth. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Jan 5th, '09, 17:52 
But what does it acheive ... over and above a Chift Pist arrangement....???

And why have chift pist at all with the flouts... other than just a standpipe for an emergency overflow????

Why a sequencer... I think it was discussed earlier in the thread... and Decal decided on a simple one pump in the sump.... solids lift via Chift Pist arrangement.... for his "first design".... ... :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Dufflight wrote:
the overflow to GB's as a backup would be out or at least limited.

no it wouldn't, just has to be raised
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But more things that need monitoring

no, less: just the one flout instead of several siphons
TMHO the flout is more reliable and easier to adjust

the optional sequencer must be designed first
only then will we be able to judge it's reliability

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PostPosted: Jan 5th, '09, 18:13 
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Don't want to hijack so I'll reply on your ideas thread.
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PostPosted: Jan 5th, '09, 18:15 
Thank you Duff ... :wink:


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But why use the flout the same amount of water is beeing used with a flout just another thing to go wrong show me wheres the advantage of filling the bed quickly
dont say with a small pump you save money you will find running a small pump for 15 min say pumps 500litres and running a larger pump like mine 28000 an hr for 2 min will give approxametley the same power reading my large pump costs about $35.00 a year to run
i would rather spend an exter $10.00 a year and make it simple

Still waiting for a comment


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PostPosted: Jan 5th, '09, 18:51 
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Flout talk has been moved. :D
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My whole way of looking at setting up this AP system is to keep it as simple as possible...

the fewer the parts the fewer the problems.....

my pump will pump ST water to the bottom of the FT to swirl the solids, the overflow pipe coming out of the top side of the FT will extend to the bottom to collect solids...

using two overflow pipes will allow me to regulate the flow into the bottom GB's so they fill to capacity at the same time the main large GB fills. to do this I will use ball valves .... they the stand pipes will allow then to drain back to the ST

I really dont want to have to worry about more moving parts.. at this time... If this goes well and I like it, then I might take the old dirt garden and convert it into a system that is 4 times as large as this GH one...

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PostPosted: Jan 5th, '09, 23:41 
Sounds like a perfectly simple workable Chift Pist system to me Decal.... :wink:

Look forward to seeing you build it....


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And seeing as you already have the high capacity pump, you might as well run it on the timer as you planned.

Your plan sounds pretty good. Keep your stocking density pretty low to start for your first season till things get balanced and you should be good.

Have you been tracking your greenhouse temps lately? Knowing the lows over night through the winter will be important when choosing fish.

Make sure you will have enough space to access your fish tank. I wouldn't want you to trip on your pump and fall through your vines as you try and net your first fish dinner. Perhaps simply adding a platform or something right there would do ya. Just leave a little access hatch for your pump then you won't be tripping over the pump or plumbing right there.

Coming together well, I'm looking forward to your construction and cycling this spring/summer.


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thanks all..

well TC I am a certified diver, so no worries about catching the fish :lol:

im looking forward to starting....

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Food&Fish wrote:
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But why use the flout the same amount of water is beeing used with a flout just another thing to go wrong show me wheres the advantage of filling the bed quickly
dont say with a small pump you save money you will find running a small pump for 15 min say pumps 500litres and running a larger pump like mine 28000 an hr for 2 min will give approxametley the same power reading my large pump costs about $35.00 a year to run
i would rather spend an exter $10.00 a year and make it simple

Still waiting for a comment

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PostPosted: Jan 6th, '09, 04:30 
Discussion is taking place in Franks thread F&F....

But he still hasn't answered your question.... or a similar one I asked....

And to be honest... until Frank coined the phrase FFSD... "fast fill, slow drain".... nobody had ever mentioned it before... or extolled it's virtues...

Now it seems to have passed into folk lore.... :wink:


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TCLynx wrote:
Have you been tracking your greenhouse temps lately? Knowing the lows over night through the winter will be important when choosing fish.


My GH is set up with two thermostats... one for the exhaust fan and one for the oil filled heaters....

so right now the average high temp is maintained at 80-82 degrees F and low temps on normal days is 55-58 degrees..

on really cold days... (very few and far between here) the low temp is only 50-51 (with heat)

I will be removing the side panels and put in screens (maybe dont need screens) and will have 50% shade cloth for the top..... in the summer.... since the sun is directly overhead....

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PostPosted: Jan 6th, '09, 05:12 
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That would be in Tilapia temp range?


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