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Weird thing going on here, mates. I'm trying out Verizon and it is nice and fast and websites load fast. I've tried dozens of sites and all is good.....except it invariably will not load any BYAP pages. All I get is "The server at www.backyardaquaponics.com is taking too long to respond." Does anyone have a clue?

Hmmmm, no idea.... How about other Australian sites and non US sites, do they load quickly?

Hmmm....interesting thought...let's see....how to find AU sites? Marron aquaculture?:

(no joy) viewtopic.php?f=5&t=449&p=164403#p164403
(fast and good) http://www.aquaculturecouncilwa.com/mar ... on-farming
(fast and good) http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/sec/aqua/species/Marron.php
(fast and good) http://govdocs.aquake.org/cgi/reprint/2 ... 020460.pdf
(fast and good) http://www.rirdc.gov.au/pub/handbook/marron.html
(fast and good) http://www.regional.org.au/au/apen/2003 ... achind.htm

This was under Firefox. I also dug into the wastebin of my computer and dredged out IE with same results: no joy with BYAP. This is really, really mysterious.

Banned ip range perhaps

MMMn sometimes happens up here to me as well.......I get a complex thinking I have been kicked off the space shuttle BYAP

Yeah, perhaps thats it... They might be using a banned list that includes BYAP for some reason..

can you get to
http://www.byapmagazine.com/ (site hasn't been set up properly yet but you should see something)

What about
www.aquaponicswiki.com

wiki works, magazine does not.

try the following and let us know the reports
go to start run
type cmd
in the dos window type ping www.backyardaquaponics.com
then try
nslookup www.backyardaquaponics.com
then try
tracert www.backyardaquaponics.com

pinging will let you know if you can reach the site.
nslookup lets you know if the site an be resolved ie: change site address to ip address.
tracert will let you know where the blockage is if you can not reach the site.

cheers
Ron

another thought is to contact there helpdesk/support and see if they can connect.
regards
Ron

It looks to me when I run tracert etc that it is byap itself that is refusing to respond. See the tracert info obtained under verizon (failure) and under my usual satellite internet.

Verizon info

Server: 14.sub-66-174-92.myvzw.com
Address: 66.174.92.14

Name: www.backyardaquaponics.com
Address: 116.0.17.64



Tracing route to www.backyardaquaponics.com [116.0.17.64]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 369 ms 49 ms 181 ms 64.sub-66-174-217.myvzw.com 66.174.217.64]
2 245 ms 169 ms 178 ms 127.sub-66-174-217.myvzw.com [66.174.217.127]
3 226 ms 246 ms 196 ms 146.sub-66-174-31.myvzw.com [66.174.31.146]
4 74 ms 65 ms 70 ms 238.sub-66-174-217.myvzw.com [66.174.217.238]
5 103 ms 109 ms 89 ms 194.sub-66-174-217.myvzw.com [66.174.217.194]
6 194 ms 165 ms 114 ms 98.sub-66-174-31.myvzw.com [66.174.31.98]
7 146 ms 142 ms 124 ms 253.sub-69-83-161.myvzw.com [69.83.161.253]
8 67 ms 67 ms 95 ms GigabitEthernet2-2.GW9.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.197.45]
9 78 ms 89 ms 142 ms 0.ge-0-2-0.XT1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.55.74]
10 144 ms 173 ms 75 ms 0.so-5-1-0.XT1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.56.150]
11 106 ms 72 ms 112 ms sl-crs2-sj-0-1-0-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.1]
12 218 ms 742 ms 221 ms sl-st20-pa-12-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.8.243]
13 223 ms 287 ms 241 ms sl-newzeal-191003-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.216.254]
14 175 ms 85 ms 102 ms so6-0-3.sjbr2.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.101]
15 262 ms 110 ms 281 ms so2-1-1.sybr6.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.141]
16 297 ms 236 ms 286 ms so1-0-0.sybr7.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.94]
17 229 ms 297 ms 297 ms xe2-0-0-2.sybr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
18 272 ms 352 ms 378 ms 202.50.238.214
19 361 ms 350 ms 238 ms xe-3-0-0-150.bdr5.hay.connect.com.au [202.10.14.137]
20 230 ms 325 ms 233 ms gigabitethernet0-2.cor10.hay.connect.com.au [203.63.217.67]
21 242 ms 368 ms 235 ms DCON7608-10.gw.connect.com.au [210.8.226.137]
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.





Direcway info

Server: ns.direcpc.com
Address: 66.82.4.8

Name: www.backyardaquaponics.com
Address: 116.0.17.64


Tracing route to www.backyardaquaponics.com [116.0.17.64]
1 * * * Request timed out.

2 1294 ms 700 ms 1019 ms dpc6682158130.direcpc.com [66.82.158.130]

3 987 ms 980 ms 1009 ms dpc6682017154.direcpc.com [66.82.17.154]

4 758 ms 989 ms 1009 ms dpc6682016065.direcpc.com [66.82.16.65]

5 828 ms 709 ms 769 ms dca-edge-18.inet.qwest.net [63.237.64.85]

6 1607 ms 950 ms 919 ms dcp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.251.110]

7 918 ms 888 ms 659 ms 62.156.128.25

8 875 ms 720 ms 1448 ms 217.239.40.53

9 1489 ms 659 ms 959 ms ge-7-0-4.pabr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.45]

10 * 834 ms 699 ms so-1-2-2.0-sjbr2.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.213]

11 1436 ms 849 ms 1810 ms so1-1-0.sybr6.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.229]

12 1439 ms 1239 ms 1220 ms so1-0-0.sybr7.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.94]

13 1039 ms 1629 ms 839 ms xe2-0-0-2.sybr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]

14 1518 ms 1339 ms 929 ms aapt-int.sybr5.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.238.214]

15 1168 ms 979 ms 979 ms xe-3-0-0-150.bdr5.hay.connect.com.au [202.10.14.137]

16 915 ms 959 ms * gigabitethernet0-2.cor10.hay.connect.com.au [203.63.217.67]

17 909 ms 1282 ms 900 ms DCON7608-10.gw.connect.com.au [210.8.226.137]

18 938 ms 979 ms 1090 ms 116.0.17.64



Trace complete.

myvzw.com ... (aka vzw.msn.com) ... is hosted on one of Microsofts "Windows Live" servers... based in the US.... handles all the MSN chat gumbos.... via mobile web... ie. it's all wireless/satellite mobile & blackberry device traffic via mobile phone towers....

Then you get bounced back to servers in NZ (global-gateway.net.nz... hosted by netgate)....

An known problem connection... that often suffers up to 65% packet loss...

What router are you using... you may be able to set the routing table..... or you could change the default value of the "hop-limit"... so that it didn't "timeout"... would still be slow though...

My best tip.... ditch Verizon... and go with someone else...

Actually Hydro.... I think the Microsoft server host the Windows Live webmail... MSN webmail, hotmail, mobilenet webmail etc... rather than the MSN chat gumbos...

Why you're being directed through Global Gateway NZ is a bit strange though.... although a lot of traffic to Australia does go via NZ....

FYI - By pinging the hostname you are resolving the IP

hydrophilia - that trace is nasty. It appears your ISP doesn't know how to correctly route to the network BYAP is on. Can you try a trace to http://www.telstra.com or http://www.iinet.net.au etc and post the results?

If these trace OK, then you'll have to report this problem to your ISP (Provide a working and non-working trace) for their routes to be updated.

Actually, wait a sec - I see you're using www.backyardaquaponics.com - try using www.backyardaquaponics.com.au . These two sites are on different IP's, even though they appear to be on the same box / datacentre (why you would do this, I don't know).

Verizon may have more luck routing to 203.17.36.111 - worth a shot anyway.

Geeks

I always just ring providers up and be polite but firm.
Mind I had to hit Telstra over the head a few times re the pair gain system we had