Backyard Aquaponics
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Yeh - that would be terrible if all the thugs you speak of went home

ROFL

When was it that NZ was no longer a State of Australia ,, around 1870???

New Zealand was envisaged as part of a possible federation.

Following the formation of the Federal Council of Australasia in 1885 (a weak non-executive, non-legislative federation of Western Australia, Fiji, Queensland, Tasmania and Victoria) the movement for full Federation developed in the late nineteenth century, proposing that the six colonies join together as one federation of several States and territories (it was envisaged that New Zealand might join). In the 1890s, two constitutional conventions were called, which ultimately adopted a constitution based on a combination of British, American and other models (monarchy and parliamentary government from Britain, federalism from the United States, the use of the referendum from Switzerland).

New Zealand was involved in a Constitutional Convention in March 1891 in Sydney, New South Wales, along with the Australian colonies. This was to consider a potential constitution for the proposed federation between all the Australasian colonies. New Zealand lost interest in joining Australia in a federation following this convention, though the Australian Constitution still includes provision for New Zealand to be included. See clause 6

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/co ... eamble.htm



This constitution was then approved by the voters in each of the six colonies. (At the time women had the vote in only one of them: South Australia, and Aboriginal Australians in South Australia and Queensland only). It was then passed (with an amendment allowing for some appeals to the Privy Council in London) as an Act of the British Parliament: the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900. The Act entered into force on January 1, 1901, at which point the Commonwealth of Australia came into being. The 1901 Australian Constitution included provisions to allow New Zealand to join Australia as its seventh state, even after the government of New Zealand had already decided against such a move.

The logic was that the Australian colonies and New Zealand had much in common. While New Zealand chose not to join the Australian federation in 1901, it maintains close political contact. At a government-to-government level, the relationship that Australia has with New Zealand is better developed and more extensive than with any other country. Prime Ministers hold annual formal talks, as do Treasurers, Trade and Defence Ministers. Foreign Ministers meet biannually.Ministers and public servants from both countries participate in meetings and conferences on a wide range of issues: health, education, transport, justice, quarantine and many others. New Zealand ministers and senior officials participate, with their Australian federal and state counterparts, in many of the ministerial council meetings which span the Australian domestic policy agenda.

One of the reasons that New Zealand chose not to join Australia was due to perceptions that the indigenous Māori population would suffer as a result. Federation age Australia had a strict White Australia policy and indigenous Aboriginal peoples were not granted citizenship and the vote as early as the Māori in New Zealand, who had full citizenship, and universal suffrage since 1893.

From time to time the idea of joining Australia has been mooted, but opinion polls show New Zealanders overwhelmingly oppose the idea. Even New Zealanders resident in Australia have been unenthusiastic, while for its part, the Australian government has expressed little or no interest.

Manuka in the Australian Capital Territory was named because of hopes that New Zealand would join the Federation.

Every time someone raises this question Chappo.... opinion polls show the Kiwis overwealmingly reject it.... i.e 95%...

Every time it's proposed the Australians also overwhelmingly oppose it .....
I guess it's " I love my brother,,but I don't want him sharing my house".

It's really a quite complex relationship ,, on one hand we stand side by side up to our hips in mud , fighting a common enemy and watching each others backs .....,, then bash the crud out of each other on the sporting field.

It's works ,, so why mess with it.

True.. so very true Chappo....

As useless as you lot are... we'll still have a beer with ya....

what was that chappo

Wots with this thread - rupert seems to be talking to himself

Again? Hang on I thought this was a thread about what we were doing on friday night, maybe a mod merged it with a "(not very) Brief history of China/Tibetan politics" Along with another "NewZealand used to be good at rugby" thread.

Oh ho ho, this is not good, no no no, it is not.
I'm not feeling well, but I get up cos I have stuff to do, but before I go out, I get my morning's AP forum fix.
What do I discover... 2 Messages, 2!!!!
Where is everybody... two messages posted hours ago. Are we all sleeping off Christmas hangovers? Or are we so diligently upgrading our systems, that we think we have no time for the forum
Somebody's out there somewhere. Surely?

Hey KP, morning!

Morning Jaymie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How are you?
KP's not feeling the greatest, and needs to go outside, weed, add growbeds etc, but just CBF...

just about to go let the chooks out and feed the fish, had a bit of a sleep in, but ready to get started

Right! You've shamed me into getting up.
Should have some pics on my thread by tonight or tomoz

I'm in Perth on AP rations

Aparently I have a family that needs my attention