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jessy
 Post subject: Re: Gone Fishin's System
PostPosted: Nov 20th, '08, 16:40 
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When water clarity is poor in my tank, I run the pumps from 3 hours to all day, it helps alot :wink: .
I also do the same in a high ammonia water test, seems to balance the system quickly :D .
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PostPosted: Nov 20th, '08, 18:59 
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I was going to adjust the ph but by the time I'd found out how the system had started to bring it down. Now I have to look into ways of making it go up. :D
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PostPosted: Nov 20th, '08, 19:46 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Stop fretting - cycling takes up to a month. 12 days is probably at least 7 days short of being cycled at least.
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Record of results
Day 17
High range ph down to 7.4 - 7.8
Ammonia 2.0
Nitrite 5.0
Nitrate between 5 - 10
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 Post subject: Re: Gone Fishin's System
PostPosted: Nov 26th, '08, 19:44 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Lay off the ammonia production for a couple of days until it starts to drop. Between 1 and 2 seems to work the quickest.
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PostPosted: Nov 26th, '08, 20:46 
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veggie boy wrote:
My experience with urea addition (through urine) has been that the ammonia does not register straight away, because urea is converted to ammonia by urease over a period of time. If you threw a full handfull in and are registering no ammonia, nitrite or nitrate, I can't help but wonder whether it is yet to convert to ammonia :? .

Maybe make up a small amount in a bucket and run a test to see what you get in terms of ammonia and then go from there. If in fact it is a problem with the urea not converting due to no urease (which I doubt, because others have used urea in the past) then you can always add a little urine to introduce the urease.

VB, So you're saying there may actually be a real use for the proberbial "Stale Bucket" :cheers:
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PostPosted: Nov 26th, '08, 20:48 
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Proberbial? :shock: :shock: :shock: Is that a word?
I think I mean Proverbial :drunken:
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 Post subject: Re: Gone Fishin's System
PostPosted: Nov 26th, '08, 21:56 
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VB, So you're saying there may actually be a real use for the proberbial "Stale Bucket" :cheers:


There's a whole thread devoted to the subject Dicko .... viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2534&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
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PostPosted: Nov 27th, '08, 08:07 
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Yes Rupe,
Have been following that thread.
I've been using "Humonia" for a while now!

I was indicating towards some fairly useless work colleagues I've had in the past,
that tended to stand around like stale buckets of Pi$$ :)
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PostPosted: Nov 27th, '08, 08:27 
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I haven't been adding any ammonia :shock: Only got 2 goldies in there. The last Urea i added was a double handful 2 weeks ago and a single handful sometime before that.
won't add any more now it has shot up :wink:
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Gone Fishin
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Today:
Ammonia 2
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 20 - 40 only got a quick look before tube fell and smashed :(
I am hoping to get this partial cycle done by next weekend so I can get some fish.
I will probably plant seeds this weekend.
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Try for sunday, the ammonia should have dropped a bit. PH and temperature will decide wether it is safe for fish.
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Gone Fishin
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Did a test yesterday:
Ammonia between 0.25 - 0.5 hard to tell at those levels :?
Nitrite 0.25
Nitrate 40+ on Sunday
Ph 6.8 going to see if can get some sea shells today
Temp is a toasty 28ish

Ph is still dropping down I used some calcium carbonate tablets (a supplement from a health food store) for people with osteoporosis :lol: and ground them up. Raised the Ph from 6.2 to 7.4 overnight.


Looking ahead at getting fish on the weekend let me see if I understand this right. I minimise feeding and use water changes to control Ammonia levels? What is the danger level (around 1?). For Nitrites I should salt the system to 3ppt to reduce its danger? How much salt should I add for 950ltrs fish tank + 500ltrs sump?

thanks for help :)
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PostPosted: Dec 3rd, '08, 08:58 
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Shouldn't need that much salt to negate the nitrite. About 1ppt should do the trick. Lets call your system 1500 litres all up so that is 1 1/2 kilos of salt.

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