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PostPosted: May 15th, '08, 06:12 
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Another reaon to eat only AP organic natural veggies

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The human reproductive system is highly vulnerable to pesticides. Men working in agricultural areas have shown more than ten times the incidence of infertility as compared to men in other occupations.

The same applies to drugs and anesthesia (ref: Anesthesiology 54:53-56, 1981)


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The Importance of Trace Minerals

Commercially grown foods not only contain the risk of pesticides, they typically have a lower trace mineral content than organically grown foods.

Even medical research is finally realizing the importance of trace minerals in maintaining the human immune system and all aspects of health.

The reason commercially grown foods are so low in trace minerals is that they are "fertilized" with only nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium and a selection of often less than 5-10 core minerals (instead of over 100 that occur naturally).

The plants grown this way eventually deplete the soil of necessary trace minerals. The plants get weak and are attacked by bugs. Then, pesticides are used to kill the bugs.

Those pesticides get on our food and into our food. The reproductive system suffers.

"Organic" farmers, on the other hand, often use fertilizers such as rock powders, marine by-product fertilizers (that naturally contain complete mineral content), and compost. Thereby constantly replenishing the soil with the entire array of trace minerals.

These plants are strong and hardy and require no pesticides to defend themselves from bugs.


So I think the natural mineral dust might be the best way to add trace minerals.


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PostPosted: May 15th, '08, 06:40 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Yay - no more gravel washing :D


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Dan, there is even a circa 1950's senate report from your country highlighting the dire state of trace minerals in commercial veggies, will try and dig it up..................


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here it is, you have to rotate the pdf to read it
http://www.senate.gov/reference/resourc ... clemen.pdf


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PostPosted: May 15th, '08, 22:48 
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Thanks Steve!
I settled on using the rock dust, now I just have to find that site again.


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heh , now Im glad I didnt wash my gravel all that well in the new system , and not at all in the old system


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The human reproductive system is highly vulnerable to pesticides

I don't need to reproduce any more, the 2 I have already are enough, you can't send them back :evil: but will save washing gravel and blue metal when phase 3 (the vegies) starts


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http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory. ... 1727405517

New concerns about salmonella food poisoning linked to some uncooked varieties of tomatoes. The source of the tomatoes responsible for the illnesses in at least 16 states has not been pinpointed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said at least 23 people have been hospitalized, and no deaths have been reported.

They're trying to trace it back to the source now. Let me guess- they're not going to find it?

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http://www.foodqualitynews.com/news/ng. ... ood-safety
http://www.idph.state.il.us/public/hb/hbsam.htm

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http://www.grist.org/comments/food/2006 ... index.html
For the ninth time since 1995, California's Salinas Valley -- the "nation's salad bowl" -- has been implicated in an E. coli scare involving salad greens. (This was the packaged spinach. We had two lettuce outbreaks after this article was written.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North ... i_outbreak


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I'm happy. We have pots with real soil in our growbeds.


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PostPosted: Jun 10th, '08, 19:55 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Just remember that the soil will stay a lot wetter than hydroton, and may /will rot the roots of most plants :?
Takes 2 - 4 weeks for the effects to show.


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Luckily, OBO, the system hasn't had rotting roots for five months now. Perhaps the plant species are just right for the setup.


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PostPosted: Jun 11th, '08, 06:38 
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Righto :D I forget who plants what :geek:

Woody stemmed plants (tomatoes etc) will rot then... :D


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I heard the tomatoes making people sick were GMO too. :evil5:


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Tomatoes that are harvested by machine were gentically modified so that they wouldn't bruise when they are picked. Their skins are thicker and they take longer to ripen even when they reach size. Any of you read that website on "King Corn" that I posted? Yellow Dent #4 corn is modified to be mostly starch- orginal corn, maize, is mostly protein. One of the enzymes that's used to break the starch of the corn, into corn syrup, is also genetically modified. GMO's are not just the food anymore but in the processing of the food as well.


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PostPosted: Jun 12th, '08, 00:25 
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I think people need to get more facts on GMO's,,, I saw a programme that showed "some" GMO's where merely an acceleration of what could be done by natural cross-breeding.

DON'T get me wrong ,, I do not want an apple to have a fish growing out it's side.

Thick skined tomato's make a great example ..... why would growers want that ???? Big brother? ,, The government??? ..... AHH corporate greed????
Nope ,, the consumer,,, yes "us"... You want Tomato's that look nice and plump and red ,but have no flavour ??? yes you buy them so they continue to be produced.
i've watched tomato prices here ikn Sydney Australia ..... initially whats here called "truss" tomato's where AUD 14.99 a kilo good tasty quality ,, normal tastless crap was 2.99 ,, but people actuially purchased the tasty "truss" tomato's ..... 3 year later , truss are AUD $2.99 a kilo .....,Consumer POWER.
Don't blame the governemt or GMO ,, the market is set byuwhat YOU buy.


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