Backyard Aquaponics
A place to discuss aquaponics

Steve, the federalist papers are the papers written showing the intentions of the laws created at the founding of the country (loosely my interpretation). They made it clear that we have the rights the king had and that the constitution expressly forbid the government from doing anything not allowed by the constitution. Law and courts are a great example. The constitution defined 3 jurisdictions that courts could operate in. maritime, civil and criminal. Maritime does not apply on land. Civil and criminal required that there be a damaged person or property before there can be legal jurisdiction. So our country operates in a "color of law" called statutory law which is not allowed/legal/right. They have no constitutional right, for example, to pass a law to fine and imprison me for not wearing a seat belt because there is no damage to person (real person) or property.

When the government acts outside the bounds of the founding law the servant is becoming master of the master. So Alexander Hamilton was saying that any law violating the constitution is null and void or invalid.

Hummm... yeah... I find it the ultimate act of hypocracy for the western world to rant about "terrorism" and the "loss of innocent civilan lives"..... not that other nations aren't also accountable for atrocities...

When we (collectively) deliberately and systematically targeted civilians throughout WWII (Berlin, Dresden etc).... Vapourised Horishima and Nagasaki, even though surrender talks with the emporer were at a point of capitulation (read your history)....Napalmed entire villages in Vietnam..... Carpet bombed Loas and Cambodia.... and indulged in "shock and awe" in Iraq on the basis of a deliberate lie and a deliberate long endorsed policy by a bunch of evangelicists, neo-fascists and a raving lunatic Dick Cheney.

It's always the innocents that suffer in "war".... don't see to many generals or general's sons lining the morgues....

Bomb the bloody generals and politicians I reckon....

As to the Americans saving Australia Chappo.... sorry wrong there mate.... It was the Aussies that stopped the Japanese advance in Timor, Papua New Guniea etc....

MacArthur (and the Americans) were only here after unceremoniously retreating from the Phillipines because they needed a launch pad and staging supply point to service the navy fleet for the Coral Sea and Guada Canal campaigns, the re-taking of the Phillipines etc....

Pure self interest (fair enough I suppose) and pure bloody ego on MacArthur's part ... he made a promise to return....

Sadly it was also the Anzacs that saved the same generals arse at Kapiyong in Korea by holding the line while MacArthur beat a hasty chaotic full blooded retreat.

The one thing I'll agree on with the US army generals.... they recognised even back in 1945 that Australia was the most secure and tactically defensible land on earth....

A fact that we STILL refuse to understand and recognise.... we really don't need the US to defend Australia.....

And we dont need to throw money down the drain defending everyone!

Rupert,,I was more talking the naval battle,,, 'Coral Sea". That halted Japan from landing on Aussie soil. There's little doubt the Japanese could never have controlled any significant amount of the Australian continent , logistically it was well beyond their means.

My read on history shows the Japanese intended to fight to the very last man ,woman or child.It would have been impossible for them to accept seeing there Emperor shamed by defeat. It took those bloody aweful bombs to convince them that continued fighting was fruitless.I still stand by what I said ''Those bombs saved countless thousands of lives".I just wish an alternate method could have been used.Actually I just wish we ALL would just stop killing all together,,,but we are by nature an agressive species.

The decision to use the bomb in Horishima and (several days later) in Nagasaki were probably more to do with a show of force and demonstration to the Russians who had just invaded Manchuria and had seized control of most of Europe with the fall of Berlin....

Yes it saved lives... in as much as the Japanese had fought to the last man in both the Marshall Islands and Guam, and the death toll had been so high that the military was projecting losses of up to 50% for invasion of the Japanese mainland...

Tokyo was already being firebombed (killed more people than Horishima and Nagasaki) as were other major cities and the Japanese mainland had been blockaded of supplies for months before hand.....

The war was well and truely being won.... and the emporer knew it.... the only "sticking point" of surrender negotiations before they dropped the bombs were the call to retain the emporer....

There were elements the Japanese military that were so disgusted with what they saw as the Emporers capitulation that they actually were about to enact a coup when the US bombed Tokyo.....

And yes, the Japanese people would have fought to the last man/women if the mainland had been invaded... certainly as long as the emporer and generals has indicated that they should do so

Is often said that one of the first casualties of war is the truth....

Sadly and oh so deliberatly cynically we (the allies) have now resorted to killing/manipulting the truth even before we enter into war...

By the way.... are people aware that no formal "state of war" has ever been declared by any of the "Coalition" countries against either Iraq or Afganistan...

We are at war with a defnition.... "terrorism".... a definition that like the Geneva Convention (according to George W)... is open to interpretation anyway...

As an aside... by not declaring war... and adopting a few other techniques and retrospective legislation.....

We have managed to excuse, isolate ourselves from being bound by the Geneva Convention, rules of engagement and any subsequent prosecution for war crimes etc....

And we wonder why people in their own lands think we're basically pr!cks.... Durrrr

OK, this has been done to death before, lets get back onto....................table scraps

I don't have enough for my worms and chooks.

Well knock on your neighbours door and see if they have any leftovers. Promise not to burn their house down if they are forthcoming with some peelings

there was a day when the super market up the road would happily let my grandfather take as many boot fulls of veggie leafs and clean ups from the bac for his chooks and rabbits.............i suppose those days are gone along with the free WVO.............and public liability claims from climbing into dumpsters.

last time i checked the going rate fro WVO was 50cpl

REallly? wvo? wow! They do allow people to take the vege scraps from some of the s/markets but only late at night once everything has closed ( they did up till a couple of years ago at the one beside my work)

but only late at night once everything has closed

LOL, yeh, thats the same time that you can take what ever you want and when you wear a face mask and drive a stolen car

yep, ram raiding lettce scraps is pretty big business these days!

give it time!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

crude jumped $8 last night, bringing it to $139.58 per barrel.............they say the $200 per barrel is the crisis point for the australian economy slipping into recession or worse..............considering its gone from $103 to nearly $140 since march 1st...............scary. yet most people live their lives oblivious...........just need a bloke in a robe playing the violin while it happens!

Hm raiding garbage bins to satisfy ones black soldier fly habit?

I am always amazed how much waste is wasted. Even in a third world country. Across the road from our nursery is a dairy. I get their waste (manure) for free. All the while, their fields get poorer and poorer every year because they won't spread the manure back into the fields.

Costa Rica now has a new enforcement (the law probably was there), you can't start a business without explaining what you are going to do with your waste products , and just letting them pile up is not an answer. For example, we have a furniture factory, and the sawdust must be dealt with. (it goes to the nursery and to the wood kilns)

We have gotten into a system of throwing away resources. That of course can not continue.