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PostPosted: Mar 4th, '08, 22:08 
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Tony From West Oz wrote:
And there was no mention of the seasonal nature of the crops grown. People these days want things but are not prepared to plan for them by planting in advance of their needs.
People may expect that they can get lettuce & tomato in the depths of winter, without having a greenhouse, just a 2bed, 1Kl AP system.


What is this "winter" thing you speak of? You mean you can't grow veggies the year round? :roll:

Okay - I know, I get really smug because I live in the tropics where the day length and the temperature remains pretty much the same all year.

But I would dearly love to grow trout - but so far it isn't going to happen...


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CRT, Just when I stop hating you and your beautiful location and smug island attitude you go and say something like that.


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Hey - I am suffering here without trout... But I was thinking, you guys heat your systems - I could tap into the hydro power of a stream we have and create a refrigeration system to lower the temperature of the water - and this of course would make it better for growing broccoli / califlower, etc. Since there is no charge for running it (because hydro power) it just might be worth it. I only have to drop the temperature about 5 degrees farenheit (2 to 3 degrees centigrade)

Hey! I just noticed - we aren't an island!


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Speaking of advertising. Google searches for aquaponics, and now fluidized sand bed filters pull up this forum in the search results withing the first two pages. Its kinda weird to start seeing my post when searching for info :P


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That happens with quite a few topics Dandi..... guess that just means we're all at the forefront and pioneering various subjects :D


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Speaking of advertising. Google searches for aquaponics, and now fluidized sand bed filters pull up this forum in the search results withing the first two pages. Its kinda weird to start seeing my post when searching for info :P


You should try Copernik, you are on the second line


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If this is a repost could the mods please delete :D

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/200 ... 163898.htm

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Organic vegies are all the rage but in the drought and with availability low, they can set you back a pretty penny at your local supermarket.

What if you could have your own organic vegie garden that uses only a bucket of water a week? And your own fish farm to boot.

Paul Geering is the Project Officer for Sustainable Practices at TAFE and he's set up a way of doing just that.

With just two old bathtubs, a length of pipe and a fish tank, Paul has turned a piece of dry, scrubby ground next to a TAFE car park into a fully functioning aquaponics system.

Aquaponics is a hybrid of Aquaculture and Hydroponics and uses a symbiotic water relationship between fish and plants in a self-sustaining system. Paul sees aquaponics as a very real alternative to conventional farming and a novel way to beat the drought.

Sustainability is what it's all about for Paul, who's mission is to use less water and more smarts in the fight to save the environment. The system he's set up at the Sunraysia Institute of TAFE is only small at this stage but he hopes it will soon provide enough fresh herbs, some vegetables and fish for the TAFE's cooking school and restaurant and inspire others to give aquaponics a go in their own backyard.

Ever conscious of the environment, Paul has used recycled materials where possible. Two old bathtubs have been sourced from local farmers and the fish tank is an old plastic container which once held molasses which was used to feed cattle. The bathtubs are filled with a mix of gravel, including porous, volcanic gravel which Paul says is a very healthy medium for plants to grow in.

A pipe runs from the fish tank to the bath tubs and the fishy, nutrient-rich water is used to feed the grow-out beds.

The TAFE's fish tank currently contains one thousand silver perch fingerlings, which are native to this area of Australia. Like any fish tank, they create waste which is toxic to them and must be filtered out. "By pumping that water up into the grow-out bed," explains Paul, "all the bacteria convert the ammonia and the nitrites to ammonium nitrates." This he says, is a great fertiliser which is filtered out of the water the as it runs through the gravel. Clean, fresh water then flows back into the fish tank.

It's not only an efficient way of growing vegetables with little water, says Paul, but it's also a time efficient way of getting your groceries. From speaking with other aquaponic growers he's discovered plants grow much faster in this medium, and he's heard it can sometimes be up to forty times as fast as conventional soil grown gardens.

If you love your seafood too, you're in luck.

The fish take up to thirty weeks to grow to full size and can then be harvested for eating or on-selling because they too are organically grown. The fish, says Paul "are actually a bi-product of the whole aquaponics system but are very key and crucial to making the whole system work."

In his old industrial bulk container, one thousand fish flit through the water. Paul has gone to some effort to make the tank comfortable for the baby fish by fitting some pipes and other hiding places in the metre deep tank. Right now, the tank is large enough for all of them to live comfortably, but he admits that as they begin to grow, he will have to find alternative homes for the adolescent school.

Understandably, Paul has had a lot of interest in his aquaponics setup and he will soon be running a course at the TAFE on how to get yourself started. While most of these are for a suburban backyard setting, Paul points to some larger operations both in regional and metropolitan Victoria who are turning a tidy profit through aquaponics. He says a part-time aquaponics garden in Melbourne is bringing one man around $60,000 a year in turnover.

"At the end of the day," he says, "the only running costs you have is an air pump, and a water pump." Of course, you also need to feed the fish and pay for water, but at just a bucket of water a week says Paul, that cost is fairly minimal.

Through his eagle eye for recycling, Paul says his small aquaponics system cost under $300 to set up but it can be anywhere up to $4000 depending on the size and extras included.

Paul is confident aquaponics is set "to be the next biggest thing to sliced bread"; bringing organic vegetables and fish into our backyards but also giving us a new tool to fight the drought and those ever rising supermarket prices.

"This way," he says, "we can actually walk out into our backyard, pick what we need, when we need it and just produce some food for ourselves in the backyard."


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That's some great Press. I guess it hard to keep down a worldwide trend.

This kind of stuff should make all you old timers feel really proud; to be so far out in front of a trend- that you have/are actually ground-breakers and are possibly teaching the whole world, how food will be grown in the future.

It's inspiring, to say the very least. Changing the way the World thinks, one back yard at a time.

You AP'ers are "good karma" for the world!

thank you :cheers:


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PostPosted: Jun 13th, '08, 20:38 
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yeah this is an old post repeated, or at least I have seen it on here before.
I think the thought was good advertising but may run into trouble as he has 1000 silver perch in a 1000lt tank with 2 bath tubs as te growbeds.

any way some one will find it and link to the original discussion


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PostPosted: Jun 13th, '08, 20:40 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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Yeah, a HSM from hell :D


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PostPosted: Jun 13th, '08, 20:42 
Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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I wonder if all those fish are dead yet :lol:


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