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Got a foodgrade 200L screwtop barrel today (was waiting for a while, but it was worth the wait...$24). It is going to be used as a header tank, and now i can really get into things......

just need to decide and figure out how to dump all that water as fast as possible......
Leaning towards a big bell autosyohon, was origionally thinking of a flout type thing in the middle of the tank, to give a larger useable volume (pivot closer to 180 degrees rather than 90ish), but bell syphon will prob be easier and more reliable...


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bell siphon wouldn't need to be all THAT big ;) I think i have a 90mm outer with a 40.mm inner i think............ dumps around 150 litres in under 10 seconds :)


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thats the type of flow i am after :smile: and by big i ment tall, 870mm tall to be exact


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You shouldn't have too much trouble getting it to siphon to very low in the barrel before it breaks, provided you build it right Dan.


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i recon there would be some relation between the hight of the bell siphon and the required "drop" under it...............whaddayathink les?


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steve wrote:
i recon there would be some relation between the hight of the bell siphon and the required "drop" under it...............whaddayathink les?


:shock: If there is that will change my plans abit, could a larger water trap U help build up the air pressure in the syphon higher to give it a better "woosh"


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Not quite right...the height of the u-bend (distance the air has to push out of the u-bend) determines how much higher the water rises above the bell siphon.

It depends on how deep the water is for the air to be forced out:
Pic 1 - it is < 5mm for the air to be pushed under (elbow was cut off :lol: )
Pic 2 - ~30mm therefore more pressure needed to force the air out, hence more water above the siphon...so keep the depth as low as possible


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hmmm.....Thanks Les

i won't be able to modify the fittings to decrease the ubend size, as it is going to be distributed to multiple gb's but i will keep it as small as poss, and i can always make the syphon shorter to hopefully accomidate for this and let the water rise higher above the top of it


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Wow i didn't realise it had been so long since my last post in here. I am making progress slowly....and although i have passed other deadlines i have set for myself. I aim to have it finished within a year of this post being created......


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Daniel wrote:
Wow i didn't realise it had been so long since my last post in here. I am making progress slowly....and although i have passed other deadlines i have set for myself. I aim to have it finished within a year of this post being created......



any updates there?

Looks great so far

Photos would be nice


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Are you still around daniel???


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